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11-09-2005, 02:49 PM
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The PEQ Dude
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The probably just "borrowed" Bliazzard's Warden softare which sends them a list of processes that are running on your machine, as well as information on any open windows, includng email and IM addresses. Not much better than a rootkit, as it's a MAJOR invasion of privacy (which is why I don't and won't ever play WoW) If I, for example am running a program called hotsexforcavedude.exe and am talking to cavedudesloveslave on AIM, I don't want them knowing that. Though ironically enough, Warden has been bypassed using Sony's rootkit.
http://games.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=71153 |
11-09-2005, 03:03 PM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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ECK!!!! EVERYONE GRAB YOUR SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES, THERES GONNA BE A BLOODBATH!!!! 
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11-10-2005, 10:22 AM
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Demi-God
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Sony hit by lawsuits over root kit
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11-10-2005, 11:35 AM
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Sarnak
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Originally Posted by Windcatcher
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But if they start scanning our processes and junk through a 'anti-cheat' system, will they get sued, pretty much us and a few normal live players will be the only ones who will give a shit, I really think Sony is trying to destroy EQEMU with this, but hey, not only could we kick their ass for invasion of privacy, we could totally kick them in the ass with some fair use bullshit too.
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11-10-2005, 11:52 AM
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Dragon
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Damn this seems to be one big circle of who can screw who the best , LMAO
Oh , and if they do get sued will it be reflected in the monthly price of eqlive?
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11-10-2005, 02:48 PM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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As far as I know, those rootkits under discussion are only on Sony/BMG music cds. Those articles have nothing to do with Everquest.
Again, the rootkits are installed to protect the cds content. While it is very possible for them to do it with EQ, that's not what is happening, nor will it soon (I think so at least)
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11-10-2005, 06:03 PM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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As far as I know, those rootkits under discussion are only on Sony/BMG music cds. Those articles have nothing to do with Everquest.
Again, the rootkits are installed to protect the cds content. While it is very possible for them to do it with EQ, that's not what is happening, nor will it soon (I think so at least)
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We are aware of this, but Sony could still be scanning our process list and open windows, etc... under the EQGame.exe proccess.
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01-05-2006, 05:03 PM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Originally Posted by cavedude
The probably just "borrowed" Bliazzard's Warden softare which sends them a list of processes that are running on your machine, as well as information on any open windows, includng email and IM addresses. Not much better than a rootkit, as it's a MAJOR invasion of privacy (which is why I don't and won't ever play WoW) If I, for example am running a program called hotsexforcavedude.exe and am talking to cavedudesloveslave on AIM, I don't want them knowing that. Though ironically enough, Warden has been bypassed using Sony's rootkit.
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They don't need to "borrow" anybody's software for that. Just grab the ps open-source utility and build it into the game's core executable.
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01-06-2006, 01:47 PM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Some tips when you are running potentially untrustworthy software (and, unfortunately, it looks like even software you're buying from well-established companies is falling more and more into the "untrusted" category, at least by my definition):
1) Turn off autoplay for your CD drives. Doing that was never very secure to begin with.
2) For games like EQ and WoW, if you suspect that they will scan your processes and/or hard drive contents, run them under a user ID that doesn't have admin privileges. For convenience, you can even shift-right-click their start menu entry and use the handy-dandy "run as:" feature to cause that one program to run as a separate userid without having to log everything off. The game, not having admin privileges, will be unable to detect processes in your memory (other that those that run as the same userid). If you're concerned about hard-drive spying, you can setup permissions so that some areas of your HD are also off-limits to it.
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01-08-2006, 11:21 PM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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It is not good what they are doing, but if you think about how they feel, they must feel like they can loose money from people copying the CD's, if they do not do something about it themselves.
One thing that will probably end up happening if they do try this with EQ:
They ban someones account for running a packet collector or something...
That person sues, saying that they have the right to run what ever program they want in the background.
If you are just trying to log packets... you can always use a crossover cable and another computer...
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