Patch Question

[RangerDown]

http://www.eqemulator.net/wiki/wikka...otPatchWarning

That will tell you everything you need to know about your patch situation.

Click to read the entire thing, but I think one section from it really needs to be brought to your attention:

Originally Posted by You

and BTW, those files are NOT warez.. read some copyright laws guys

Originally Posted by Me, in this wiki article

WHOOOOOA THERE!! You evidently haven't read the site's rules. Please check the sticky "Forum Rules" and "IRC Rules" in our forums.

Or if you don't check them, I'll just tell you one thing you need to know: If you're looking to get BANNED from here, there is a very easy way to do it: ask for EQ client files.

. . . and further on down . . .

I took a half semester of business law before I dropped, and I think that if you take a loophole in the wording of section 188523.49273 clause C.f.3 of the Copyright Act, and couple that with the precedent set in Vox v. Nagafen, Solusek Ro Circuit Court of Appeals, 1999 , and use the Johnny Cochran Wookie Defense, then most courts would rule that it's not actually illegal to host these files. Then you missed the part where I said it's against forum and IRC rules. Though the rule is rooted in legal concerns, it is nevertheless a rule that stands on its own. The author of this document is a channel op in the EQEmu official channel and has use the kickban on multiple occasions against those who ask for client files. If Congress were to abolish all copyright laws next week, the author would still be in that channel kicking and banning until he got word from EQEmu devs themselves that it's okay.

[Sakrateri]

why does anyone even bother to post help to such an arrogant person , It is quite obvious that he is much better then anyone on these boards and as such he should need no one's help. If you cant get this all to work abaddon then perhps what you need can be found here If you cant get it to work help

[abaddon]

Originally Posted by Sakrateri

why does anyone even bother to post help to such an arrogant person , It is quite obvious that he is much better then anyone on these boards and as such he should need no one's help. If you cant get this all to work abaddon then perhps what you need can be found here If you cant get it to work help

Sak.. you are the arrogant one, or perhaps ignorant is a better term. Just because you have devoted your life to kissing up to the community doesnt mean everyone else has to try and be teachers pet too. The purpose of forums is to see subjects on multiple angles and learn from them all not see regurgitated posts from other people copying and pasting.

RangerDown, very interesting what you have there but note again that MOST courts, not all, if it isnt all then it isnt a defined law. as for hosting the files I am not really going to argue because as bad as everyone seems to want them it would give you a massive Bandwidth jump if you DID host them. But as for talking about them well.. seriously thats just childish really, ever heard of free speech?

sarapean - Actually if you read in my posts, I prefer Elderscrolls too, I have all releases and I am eagerly awaiting Oblivion. What I wrote in the original post is truth, I dont give a whit about EQ, in fact all the trouble it takes to set up the server is only making me hate the game more. I am setting this up specifically for a friend that wants it on his private LAN and thats all. He also wants Asheron's Call and I have access to its server files as well, but I have decided I am bot going to set it up for him til I figure out this EQ crap.

seriously.. I thought the people here were more mature than that other EQ emu site and is rather sad that the bulk of you who replied to this post are not. The only person have met on this site so far that has been a real help without being a snot-nosed brat seems to be CaveDude...

-- out

[RangerDown]

I'm going to assume from your statements directed at me that you didn't bother to read the wiki article. So, to recap, it's against the rules to use the eqemulator services to ask for the EQ client files, to ask for any assistance in locating such files from anywhere except official Sony distribution channels. You can also be banned for using the eqemulator services to offer such files, or using them to provide assistance in obtaining them from anywhere except official Sony distribution channels. Once again, independently and regardless of whether any copyright law is valid and enforceable, the LOCAL rule I just described is right now in full force until specifically told otherwise. Bear in mind that whether any legal claim over this issue would hold up in court is moot, because any claim would not make it that far. The emu doesn't have the money to retain OJ-quality lawyers thru 10 rounds of appeals which is what would be necessary to get that far.

I'll take a break from the rulebook just give you my advice in general: this community has, from the get-go, expected a minimum standard from anyone seeking help with server setup. As harsh as it may sound, most of this community holds a Darwinesque set of beliefs when it comes to would-be serverops. They're quite willing to help those that show an obvious attempt to help themselves. We don't want to expend our limited support time on those that want instant-working-emu on a silver platter, use up volunteer support time, then the second it's working, disappear back onto their private LAN leaving nothing to contribute to the community that just got them where they are. Now that you know that, you can make a decision on whether you want to continue to bother with this project or not. If so, best of luck to you. If not, hope life treats you well.

Peace.

[fathernitwit]

now now children.