Are people Idiots?

[klinzhai]

So you'd rather yell at your users than update your rules so that it clearly states "Do not ask or tell people how to get older versions of the EQ client, including the patched version that works with this server. We consider this to be requesting or distributing warez and it will not be tolerated."?

It seems like there's an easier solution than spending several hours posting about how all the people who ask, what seems to them rather innocuous, questions that they need answers to so that they can use the EQEmulator. Be helpful, state that perhaps there was a misunderstanding on their part (9 out of 10 times it's a misunderstanding, not intentional boneheadedness) and let them know that what they did is against the forum rules.... and explain exactly what you're talking about, not just saying "Hey, what you did is against the rules, don't do it again or we'll ban you" or they'll just sit there going "WTF?!?! I didn't do anything...."

Just a helpful suggestion... for some odd reason I feel like it will be ignored and the admins will spend a 1/2 hour (less time than it would take to implement my suggestion) telling me that I'm an idiot and that what I'm suggesting won't work.

[Ghost Fire]

I'm no Admin but I'll tell you why your idea won't work to well. The one thing that i see a lot is this question. "So hey all how can I get this thing running I just patched to Live" OR "Hey everyone why do I get this error 1017?!?". Well here is the reason your idea won't work. They are just to lazy to read the posts that have the answers and or they are color blind and can't see the big red text. The BIG RED example:DO NOT PATCH ON 9/13 OR LATER - 9/13 EQ Patch Breaks 0.6.2 (Which we are freezing on).

The rules are posted in 6 diferent places, in a global sticky too. PEOPLE DONT READ RULES, there is nothing we can do about people who dont read rules.


I had someone come to me and tell me they did not know the rules and asked to be unbenned, I had a long talk with them on MSN explained the rules in detail then unbanned them..... can you guess what there first post after being unbanned asked for?

Warez Is NOT Allowed
-This includes the transfer of any copyrighted material, including EQ Files and backpatches. Requesting files, even in a PM, will result in a ban.

notice the including EQ Files and backpatches part???? how much clearer do we need to make it??

[Melwin]

I've always held that this project is far too easygoing on rulebreakers. If people can't even read the rules, how do you figure they're going to be proper contributors? Contributing takes a certain effort, and if people aren't willing to put in the effort to read the rules then they're certainly not going to put in the effort to make a proper contribution to the community.

[Squirrel4317]

Now being a new user myself... I just think a good link to a Common Mistakes or Issues type page would be really helpful to everyone looking to join. You know we're all looking for the quickest solution and that's not going to change so why not just put up a page of information to answer the top 20 questions people come in with.

I came in here reading posts and trying to understand what exactly is going on here and I can see how it's easy to misread or misunderstand a post. Like patching to live for instance... right here in the instructions http://www.eqemulator.net/forums/faq...#faq_playguidehttp://www.eqemulator.net/forums/faq...#faq_playguide it says to update the patcher the normal way and I bet that screws over a lot of people right off the bat. You know what that leads to? ----> "Question: Hey! blah blah back-patcher blah blah blah."

There are still a ton of questions that I have unanswered but now that I've figured out I either have to buy titanium or wait for you guys to catch up.... what's the point? Seriously, putting a Step #1: READ THESE RULES AND FAQ
s BEFORE PROCEEDING might help a bit and put in the commonly asked questions with the appropraite answers.

WOW This is so old I had forgoten about it, way to resurect the past!

[DdrtKiller]

I got a question that's been nagging me for a while now....Now mind you Im not supporting anyone doing anything against the rules and Im not trying to impose upon them my self, but how is it considered warez or distrubuting copywrited files illigealy when SOE them selves supplied them for free at one time? Doesnt the fact that SOE gave them out for free kinda negate the illigeality of asking for previous files?