EQEmu losing hosting

[ElBigmac]

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the money will and always has been used towards EqEmu clean and simple. What I am saying is that I just don't know if it really makes a difference in the end to go for high end stuff (I am talking about features like root access and the like) when I remember that this project only ever picked up momentum because it actually had potential, it wasnt even hosted then (I dont remember the original developpe's name that donated the original source code). Back then, there was no dedicated hosting or central login server to sustain, only the basic infrastructure to allow for source code to be exchanged and communication (web site was hosted by Tux for a while IIRC...). I know there was some cost, but my point is it looks to me that this project has become accustomed to "Luxury", so-to-speak, as I don't understand why hosting can be a problem in a era of dirt cheap hosting solutions.

Just to clarify also, the people who did give money made a very selfless gesture and they are to be commended. You guys did a good thing. But as nice of an action as that was, I does not help others see why it is needed or feel more concerned about it.

Finally, I understand why the Devs don't show up on the forums much, its not their thing and it really doesn't matter cause they don't really have to. Their thing is to code whenever they have time outside of "real life" and they do an awesome job of it looking at the change logs. However, weekend warriors are hardly a company, no matter how good they are. This is also why I don't understand why the project need better hosting than the company I work for does as they develop software all week long.

So thats it really, the fine difference between knowing whats going on and why it need to be that way. I'm talking about the why.

[EmanonCow]

The closed-source login server isn't a http website. It is a network application.

So you can't just buy a forum and website hosting provider.

[sfisque]

Originally Posted by EmanonCow

The closed-source login server isn't a http website. It is a network application.

So you can't just buy a forum and website hosting provider.

i think what Elbigmac is getting at is that if push came to shove, "we" (being the community) could do this without high end hosting, if we were willing to "rough it" so to speak. meaning (and i admit i'm paraphrasing/assuming here) we could find a dirt cheap hosting for website/forums, and someone or two trustworthy could host irc and/or login server. its not optimal but in the end, it gets the job done and sometimes it can be good to "go back to your roots".

i was one of the peeps who offered a pipe and some hardware in addition to donating, but TBH, i didnt get miffed when i didnt get a response. i'm a security nut (i host my own email because i dont trust others with handling it) so i appreciate the issues involved with letting someone host this project. its nothing personal, they just need to be sure because its a decision that affects the community as a whole and not just "them".

i will say i do agree with some people's mention that "a little more info" would be conducive. a decent group of us donated, we'd like to know what's going on, even if its just "we're talking to some providers, and our plan involves possibilities Y,Z, and W." if for nothing more, at least it lets us know the money is well spent, because in the end, just as most of us are strangers to the core group, they are strangers to us, and a donation is a leap of trust to an extent. /shrug.

== sfisque

[Angelox]

I think a more exciting aspect of the project is that fact that you can actually play this game at home alone, or with friends (MiniLogin).
It is already to a point where you really don't need anything , not any login or what ever. You just need to get your MiniLogin running and presto! you're playing a decent game of EQ at home, independent of Logins, monthly rent payments, or anything else.
I finally truely own my copy of Everquest (which I paid dearly for over the years) and can play it as I please .

[gernblan]

I think the front page needs to be updated... or at least the first story... perhaps it might be scaring new people away who do not know that this problem has been resolved for now?

Maybe change it to: OUR EXPENSES JUST WENT WAY UP... DONATE PLEASE or something.

new users stronger now then in the past 2 months, barly had 4 PM's a week, up to 30-40 a day for the past week or so.

[gernblan]

Originally Posted by mattmeck

new users stronger now then in the past 2 months, barly had 4 PM's a week, up to 30-40 a day for the past week or so.

Awesome! Glad to hear that!