generally frustrated :(

[sfisque]

Originally Posted by John Adams

Example, I have never played a single minute of WoW. But, I took the Antrix source, load the project into VS2005, hit compile, loaded my DB, and played. Within 2 hours. Now, I host a private server (added to my collection muhaha) and love it. Btw, if you think the EQEmu community has some retarded members... try wading through the WoWEmu support forums. Holy Gods, that's painful.

and... for those of us who use linux to host, the current build didnt compile. they even said so in the forum and that there was no targetted date for it to be fixed (that may have changed since then, but i was unimpressed). windoze isnt a viable hosting platform. anyone who thinks so, hasnt been hacked yet. yet. and the setup documentation was weak at best if you weren't targetting windows. at least to eqemu's credit, the linux support is quite well done. the product compiles out of the box without any strange dependencies, etc.

/shrug.

== sfisque

[techguy84]

John, I would quote your whole post, but thats a lot of words.

I have to agree with you 100%. What this project is lacking is dev's, but dev's are not going to flock to this because of the game itself. EQ is old, and by old I mean what, 8 years now this game has been out. That itself is where the problem lies. Nobody really wants to get into it as much as they used to because of its outdated looks, outdated combat system, outdated everything. Hell, if the dev's got on here tommorw and said the project is done, and they agree to drop it, I would not be supprised because of how old the product their emulating is.

I have to admit. When I looked at WoW, I cringed at its cartoon graphics, but the game has alot going for it. The combat system is like EQ2, meaing that you cant just push attack and walk away. The items are plentiful, and the amount of area in terms of explorability is enourmous. I picked it up, and played it, and I am impressed. By no means what I was origanlly with EQ, but lets face it, nothing will come close to what EQ did for everyone out there.

Antrix is awesome. It is very well built and very stable. I looked at one of the major private servers and they had upwards of 2000 people on it with minimal lag. Takes alot to get those numbers. Having to compile it sucked, and in terms of support, your better off asking your kids how to do it as emupedia is just nuts. I got it working though, with little knowledge I had of clicking buttons, sourced in my DB just like I would here, edit the config, and poof ready made server. One feature I like about Antrix is how it does the skill leveling. You can set your XP rate to like 20x and the skills will rise at the same pace so they dont get left behind.

I still love EqEmu, and EQ, but what holds me back is not the status of this emulator, but the game itself. I hate looking at those graphics when I just got done playing Oblivion.

Added Note: As far as how we have to chase live, and the WoW emu's dont, its mostly due to the fact that Blizzard distibutes thier changes in lump sums and they are downloadable from many websites. SOE doesnt do this. If you need a certain version of WoW, simply patch to that version and stop. Why can't sony do this for us, would be really nice of them lol.....

[GeorgeS]

Actually cavdudes installer is what I always use as a starting point and go from there. His program has always worked to help set up the database for me. I still really don't set up a MySQL database manually since errors can be hard to resolve.

But I do agree, we should move onward and not stay stuck at titanium, although not chasing live way back then was a godsend.

GeorgeS

[Jablambo]

I've always felt pretty similar erzengelb. I was actually a GM on Gates of Norrath for quite a while, working on creating custom content but keeping it non-legit as well. The guy running the server has run into some pretty big real life issues of which I won't get into, but I haven't heard from him in quite a while either. I noticed that one day the server went down and I haven't seen it up since. I also felt like I was limited into what I could do for the server since I was not the lead GM.

I've been working on my own server now after I finally got it to work. I've tried about 5 times in the past but could never get a server to run, and had a hard time finding help. Techguys' guide did work for me, and I've been working on my own server. Like I said, I think we feel the same about EQ, and a lot of the other servers. My idea is to allow people to instantly get level 70, that way players don't have to worry about any level gaps and not being able to group with somebody. I also want players to be able to buy some pretty uber gear for free from the merchants in the starting zone. But the main thing I'm focusing on is having a story behind the server, and every custom quest I've been creating have good reason, and good rewards. So you can start out lvl 70 with really nice gear, but then there is much more progression you can do from there, solo, group, or raid. The gear better than the start gear would be all custom made, as well as many spells. Mainly I'm creating something that I, myself, would enjoy and love to play.

Like you said, it is a game after all, and the point is to have fun. We all have fun in different ways. When I played live, I played for 7 years, and since I've moved to eqemu it feels a lot easier on me personally. The servers I used to play on EQemu, I felt like I could pick up, or put down the game at any time. The best part is it's free =) I hope you can find something that you will enjoy and have fun playing it, whatever it may be. I'm not going to advertise, but have you tried out any other emulated games? The one's I've tried have been much more unstable and buggy than EQemu. Which I feel EQemu is getting fairly stable now. I also remember when I started playing EQ in 1999, the feeling I got whenever I played, the involvement in the world around me, I feel like EQ lost that shortly after PoP, and a lot of the new stuff just didn't seem like the good ol' eq. I'm hoping to bring that back with a big kick thrown in the mix. I would suggest at least checking back from time to time and see any changes, maybe try out some other servers and see what they have to offer, you never know whats in the works