LDoNs and whatnot

[John Adams]

Hmm, so the LDoN missions given out doesn't really "instance" an LDoN zone on live, but uses up to 8 zones only? What happens on the 9th group wanting to do Tak LDoNs, do they get denied?

I thought true instancing was what we were talking about, but you may be right. Or, that would be a quick way to handle it here on Emu anyway. No way 9 groups at once will storm one type of LDoN.

I have been working on this LDoN stuff for some time, but hit a wall on the PlayerProfile packet not holding the adventure ID. Since the only way to get help was to sit on IRC until I got kicked off for inactivity, I gave up. But my next concern in line after the interface was - how do you tell taka to spawn level 20-70 mobs? So I started thinking of spawn "conditions", and some script that determines the average level of a group and uses that condition, which will spawn the appropriate set of mobs. This of course means each LDoN zone would need 6 different level scales of 20 or so unique mobs plus bosses, plus loots. I almost blew my head off trying to work it all out.

[KLS]

Sorry I was little help John.. just didn't know, perhaps we can revisit it later. =x

The fact that we have no instancing is probably one of the biggest obstacles to real LDoNs... and there's quite a bit of work to get the server to support them.

[John Adams]

Originally Posted by KLS

Sorry I was little help John.. just didn't know, perhaps we can revisit it later. =x

That was not a slap at you nor FNW at all. It's just that if I am told the only way to resolve things is IRC, it would be nice for that to actually work. All I am after is more functionality for the Emu.

As for instancing, I know it in practice is not supported, but in theory? Maybe it could happen by spawning the same zone twice - static? I haven't really tried on purpose. But accidentally, I did end up 2 toons in the same zone, running twice.

[sfisque]

i'm curious though, if anyone has code that makes the adventure recruiter respond to clicking, or do we have to replicate the clicky functionality via quest scripting?

i'm cobbling together the adventure stone quest and i'll be posting it soon.

i'd guess we'll have to put the special code in for special ldon items (like the stone) that gain functionality only when you're inside an "ldon" zone, as well as the item purchasing system for ldon merchants.

i know the merchants respond to right clicks, but they dont populate items yet (but not sure if thats a limitation of the peq db or the support code, i'll have to dig deeper).

== sfisque

[John Adams]

Originally Posted by sfisque

i'm curious though, if anyone has code that makes the adventure recruiter respond to clicking, or do we have to replicate the clicky functionality via quest scripting?

Check out a post I made about PlayerProfile_Struct. That's where my info is on the opcodes, and I am finding more every day. Problem now is, there is no code to support it (unhandled opcode).

As far as I got with it was pretty much right at the beginning. Without the location of the pp.adventure_id in the player packet, all of Cofrubens original LDoN work is useless. That's THE first thing you need when you click on the adventure recruiter. Hence, my frustration at being shut down before I could really begin. So instead, I've started building the `adventure` and `adventure_text` tables for the LDoNs themselves. Once I complete them, I will gladly post them.

sfisque, look in client.cpp for "Client::SendAdventureRequest()". This is where it all begins when you right-click Adventure Merchant (race 61 I believe). With the opcode in place in your patch_Titanium.conf file, you should get the window. When you then click Request Adventure (or whatever it is) you'll always see "No adventure available" since it always returns 'false' for anything available.

OP_AdventureRequest=0x43fd (just went digging for it )

Plus, it's a total bitch to replicate since you have to log in 3 chars to make a group or the npc won't even talk to you.

[KLS]

Originally Posted by John Adams

As for instancing, I know it in practice is not supported, but in theory? Maybe it could happen by spawning the same zone twice - static? I haven't really tried on purpose. But accidentally, I did end up 2 toons in the same zone, running twice.

First of all I didn't mean to make you feel bad, I just wish I could have helped. And yeah from what I heard john had the recruiter click opcode but was having the zone crash somewhere along in the process.. I didn't have his code though. (I really should have asked for a diff)

In theory we could create 2 exact same versions of the same zone but.. database nor zoning code is really setup for true instancing.

I think in terms of doors/stones zoning you into the correct zone/instance.. the most logical solution to me would be to add limited object quests. Something like a small quest that responds to EVENT_USE or EVENT_CLICK or something. Would be useful elsewhere too.. (like that door at the bottom of the hole when clicked is supposed to aggro mobs nearby, which isn't possible without such functionality).

Would be doable with current functionality I guess with translocater NPCs though.

In terms of charms/changing items I'm not sure exactly how that would be handled, would have to be some kind of scripting for sure.

[sfisque]

Originally Posted by John Adams

Hmm, so the LDoN missions given out doesn't really "instance" an LDoN zone on live, but uses up to 8 zones only? What happens on the 9th group wanting to do Tak LDoNs, do they get denied?

I thought true instancing was what we were talking about, but you may be right. Or, that would be a quick way to handle it here on Emu anyway. No way 9 groups at once will storm one type of LDoN.

I have been working on this LDoN stuff for some time, but hit a wall on the PlayerProfile packet not holding the adventure ID. Since the only way to get help was to sit on IRC until I got kicked off for inactivity, I gave up. But my next concern in line after the interface was - how do you tell taka to spawn level 20-70 mobs? So I started thinking of spawn "conditions", and some script that determines the average level of a group and uses that condition, which will spawn the appropriate set of mobs. This of course means each LDoN zone would need 6 different level scales of 20 or so unique mobs plus bosses, plus loots. I almost blew my head off trying to work it all out.

you could just have an invisible npc that spawns the zone, adding dynamic mobs when a proximity detector goes off (aka the group zones in). then the spawns could be done cookie cutter (which IIRC) was pretty much what the ldons were, you had 90% cookie cutter spawns and a handful of mini-bosses/boss mobs

== sfisque