MiniLogin decompiled/cracked

[Lalolyen]

Yes I was refering to the mini-login.

Are you saying that the two servers are near identical in construct?

And every router in the world should instantly know to reject that packet as a fraud

Thats not true, I think you've misintrepreted a firewall and a router. Home router that does 10 billion diffrent things and can only handle about 50 nodes regardless that the factory says 253, they are about as secure as Madona in a thong on a 30 day cruise on a Navy sub.

Routers are very simple pieces of electronics, pure router, meaning no DS1, DS3 etc termination, just routing only. They do not do what you said, and do IPSec, IP Filtering, etc.. They simply tell the "world" that a destination IP belongs in its netork(s), and tells the network(s) that their destinations belong outside the router (next hop).

I'll reprase, unless you are running a true firewall or Linux, you can make a packet appear to come from the IP address of GW.

[number6]

This is a tangential question, so I apologise for the slight derail... but does this mean there could be any possibility of a linux version of the minilogin server at some point in the future? I don't like to use windows for serving anything, ever

Paul.

[Angelox]

Originally Posted by number6

This is a tangential question, so I apologise for the slight derail... but does this mean there could be any possibility of a linux version of the minilogin server at some point in the future? I don't like to use windows for serving anything, ever
Paul.

Probably no, at least for now.
But you can use minilogin with wine under Linux fine - This is what I always have used with no problems. In fact, it works better for me under Linux, as clients don't hang like they used to under windows.
You should probably make it something to do for your friends and people you know, as you can see people are already bragging about how they can hack into it, and shouldn't be long before this starts.

[RangerDown]

Originally Posted by Lalolyen

Yes I was refering to the mini-login.

Are you saying that the two servers are near identical in construct?

Not really. See image's post.

Thats not true, I think you've misintrepreted a firewall and a router. Home router that does 10 billion diffrent things and can only handle about 50 nodes regardless that the factory says 253, they are about as secure as Madona in a thong on a 30 day cruise on a Navy sub.

Routers are very simple pieces of electronics, <blah blah blah blah>

1) Most routers (that cost more than the $5 ones from wal mart) are capable of doing at least basic packet filtering. So, I stand by my previous statement that any router should reject the packet.

2) It was humor. Lighten the **** up.

3) If the things I've heard about Navy sailors on subs are true... Madonna should feel perfectly secure on their sub (yes, even in a thong)

4) Any Navy sailors IRL that just got offended by #3... see #2

[Lalolyen]

LOL @ RangerDown no, they don't forcefeed saltpeter any more =P That was made illegal by the UCMJ about 10 years ago.

If you want to impress us, don't try and reverse engineer minilogin, play by the rules and just help out on the project, and use that skill to progress the emulator. Surely there's some functions still to be found in eqgame, right?

The objective was not to impress, it was an attempt to "open source" the entire project with little effort.

I do not have the time or patience any more to construct a cpp program from ground up. I can look at the code and figure out a mistake or bug fix, ask KLS, but I'm simply not patient enough any more to sit and code from ground up... IF someone wants to sniff those packets and figure out what's going on, and assimilate that, go for it... However I must say I'm a big non-supporter of emulating and emulator of a program.

[Lalolyen]

Now, here is the point...
1) The source has been cracked.
2) I was told it could not be done by several people
3) The code IS VERY intelleagable after being told it was impossible.
4) I was told I found "Nothing", so the "nothing" of a source of what was cracked was posted for any with intermediate cpp backgrounds to have a hay-day with being its "nothing" and being I don't have the patients to do it =).

[Furrygamer]

Still waiting to see the talk about the deleted thread.

On a side note, I do find it pretty funny that when someone needs a dev they are not around, till someone challenges their power. When this happens an ambush of current and previous dev team members come and join in the fight. You say you have nothing to hide, your actions are saying we just stumbled on eqemu's area 51 and we have our photo proof of the aliens. If I could do anything to you now, I would give you a dishonorable discharge.

[devn00b]

Errr im not sure about this deleted thread, i didnt see it, didnt read it. But i do lurk here every now and again. Anyone that knows me knows im anti the current dev teams way of doing it. So please leave me out of yer area 51 paranoid bullshit

[Lalolyen]

*NOTE THIS IS A COMPILATION OF TESTIMONY FROM OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND MY OWN OPINION*

devn00b, you may agree to this then.

For a very long time now, the life's blood of this community has been siphoned away by the "power" of the dev team.

The community has been longing for an "escape" from this nightmare much like the subjects of a tyrant long for freedom.

This power comes from the fact that the mini-login is closed source and dangled over the communities head like a piece of meat being dangled over a pack of starving dogs' heads.

Someone asked why I don't program anything from the ground up, its the stigma behind it. Who would I be doing the work for? The community? I personally feel the work would be for the "tyrants" of the project not for the community itself.

Why do I feel this way? Again; its the stigma behind having an open source project completely dependent on a closed source/PROPRIETARY program.

Now here is the part I find odd, aside from my topic to help the community being deleted (a file hosting site for mirroring). At the first challenge to this "power" every Developer that has been completely inactive in the project, non-responsive to most in IRC, the forums, and everywhere else suddenly comes alive and ready to defend their "power" to the "T".

So when this is "decompiled" and "decoded" the final result is there is a team that reigns over the community that does not want to give up their power in the project or pass the torch. <== That == Tyranny.

[Angelox]

Originally Posted by Furrygamer

Still waiting to see the talk about the deleted thread.
.

If you are refering to Kayot's Sourceforge Address post that was de-railed, then that was me. Anyone who reads/knows forum rules will know and understand why I did it.
But since you keep bringing it up, I'll tell you why I deleted the posts;
1 - Mr Lalolyen was Microsoft Bashing and we don't bash MS or Linux or anyone here.
2 - This MS bashing was de-railing the thread.

So now , you can turn your flame towards me and test my patience, see how much I can take.

BTW, this thread is starting to rot even more, you're starting to flame - so go back and read the forum rules before you continue

[Lalolyen]

Originally Posted by Angelox

If you are refering to Kayot's Sourceforge Address post that was de-railed, then that was me. Anyone who reads/knows forum rules will know and understand why I did it.
But since you keep bringing it up, I'll tell you why I deleted the posts;
1 - Mr Lalolyen was Microsoft Bashing and we don't bash MS or Linux or anyone here.
2 - This MS bashing was de-railing the thread.

So now , you can turn your flame towards me and test my patience, see how much I can take.

BTW, this thread is starting to rot even more, you're starting to flame - so go back and read the forum rules before you continue

No. That is understandable Angelox... He he I hate MS and tend to get very passionate about it =P.

What he was referring to is what I'm referring to... The Mirroring / download's thread.

It was a very constructive thread, that I even PM'ed you about and said I didn't mean for it to turn into a dev bashing thread, which I had no real control over and I, myself, was blind-sided on it. However and again, I did support their rights to say it.

[redneckraccoon]

WOW! We have rules?

[Furrygamer]

I was talking about the thread inside general about the download engine with mirrors. you know the one he was trying to make to help the server always be able to find its programs that keep having broken urls?