MiniLogin decompiled/cracked

gernblan · #1 10-07-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RangerDown

The login server is closed source for two major reasons. First, the original authors of it asked for it to be. Doesn't matter their reasons... if they say they don't want it distributed then, as lessees of their copyrighted LS software, we have to abide by their distribution terms. Second, if the crypto became public, SOE would play a big cat-and-mouse game where they're constantly changing login crypto just to make work for us.

1) NO, it was originally released as GPL, they can't just change their minds once they do that. Sure, they can release future version closed source, Mozilla license, hell use the Microsoft EULA for all I care but the code up to the POINT it was closed again should be available.

2) If the crypto became public it would make no difference because we're not patching our client versions. There's no way to change the crypto without changing the client. Sorry not trying to be rude but you do not know what you're talking about.

#2 10-07-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gernblan

1) NO, it was originally released as GPL, they can't just change their minds once they do that. Sure, they can release future version closed source, Mozilla license, hell use the Microsoft EULA for all I care but the code up to the POINT it was closed again should be available.

2) If the crypto became public it would make no difference because we're not patching our client versions. There's no way to change the crypto without changing the client. Sorry not trying to be rude but you do not know what you're talking about.

1) It is the crypto that was closed source, both for minilogin and for the regular login server. The crypto in the wrong hands would be a very bad thing, for us and for live servers. Keeping it closed source protects everyone who uses EQEmu and keeps SOE off our backs.

2) plain and simple, the people who coded them dont want the source handed out, they have the right to request that and the Dev team is respecting it. Its been said in the past that anyone is free to code a new one and have it open source, however there is no point arguing over what is there currently, it will not change.

Lalolyen · #3 10-08-2007, 12:10 PM

Matt, just for clairification, crypto is the use really of two keys or a cypher (meaning the use of varable keys). to encrypt/encode something, what the program is using really is a simple encoding process.

About SoE, don't worry about them, or leave them to me. You shouldn't have any issues with SoE while I'm around not unless the LS program has ummm... commideered code from SoE which it didn't appear to have.

Matt I understand the person whom coded it didn't want the source handed out, I know why, dispite what a prior dev had to say, that or either the person was really selfish for some reason, but I tend to believe the other side of it.

Also, if you open source everything we have here, stick the GNU licensing on it (upgrade to version 3 as soon as it comes out btw!!!) you WILL NOT, I repeat WILL NOT have any issues with SoE. If they did try and cause problem, you can count on the attournies of the Free Software Foundation (GNU) to help out, as they hate proprietary corporations whom horde code and try and extinguish those whome compete and create simular code (not to mention their new license addresses code patenents thanks to Microshit).

techguy84 · #4 10-08-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lalolyen

About SoE, don't worry about them, or leave them to me. You shouldn't have any issues with SoE while I'm around not unless the LS program has ummm... commideered code from SoE which it didn't appear to have.

Pardon me while I try not to laugh.... *cough HA *cough

What makes you so special.... just curious?

If it involves the, "They cant do anything cause were breaking no laws" your right. But heres the thing about SOE. There a big company, and big companies can put a whole world of unnessecary hurt on small communities like us. They can drive us to lose lots of things just to put up a defense against them. Most would not be willing to bankrupt themselves and lose thier house just to at least get a lawyer that would work with them in court. And without proper defense and a deep knowledge of the law, whether your in the right or the wrong, your still going to lose cause you have no idea what your doing.

Its just flat out not worth it, tempting fate that is.

Edgar1898 · #5 10-08-2007, 02:07 PM

Heh, I really doubt that you were able to decompile my program. I have yet to find a decompiler that can decompile an exe and produce anything but useless garbage from it. Even a program as small and simple as minilogin. If you really have somehow decompiled it, send me a portion of the source code. I have the source code so dont worry about sharing it with me.

Lalolyen · #6 10-08-2007, 06:38 PM

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What makes you so special

My past employment with SoE maybe...

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If you really have somehow decompiled it, send me a portion of the source code.

Done... Check your pms.

Lalolyen · #7 10-08-2007, 06:50 PM

I took the liberty of also including the MD5 hash and opticodes.

I wouldn't let that message linger in your inbox, because if someone gets a hold of that hash, you're screwed (I'm sure the db for these forums are in plain text =) )

Angelox · #8 10-09-2007, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lalolyen

My past employment with SoE maybe...

SOE!
I'm curious; what did you do there and why did you leave?