A letter

boogerific · #1 10-14-2007, 11:41 AM

It's a bit hypocritical that they hate it here so badly that they created a fork but still they're using the eqemu login server for players to access their server.

riratm · #2 10-14-2007, 07:43 PM

I bid you all hello. This is Exudos, and I would just like to say that no one to my knowledge from our community is doing this. Someone is slandering our name. We might not like the way you handle things here, but we're not hateful idiots. We respect you as a starting point, but just want to move forward in our own way, and we hope you can understand this. Some harsh words were spoken, and I myself swore at a mod, as he had edited the post and made it look like nothing had happened, and thusly made it look like he was posting something hateful in an otherwise productive thread. I would also like to point out that it is definitely not megamans pet, otherwise known as furry gamer, who is doing this, he has spoken to me and expressed his distress towards the turn that this thread is taking in accusing him of misdeeds. This is not my account, and I won't be using it again, so banning it would be childish. That's my two cents, peace.

Sakrateri · #3 10-14-2007, 07:45 PM

Yeah , I got one from Carsonist now. I really hate to think after all this time being in this community I would have to disable PM's because of these Stupid, Whiny, Dumb ass, Crybaby MotherFu#$%r's. I can tell you now with the childish way they try to get attention to themselves I will NEVER join their group because I can see already what is going to happen if someone pisses them off over there. People have pissed me off before here and I am sure I have pissed others off before but it was usually handled in an adult way. I do hope they just piss off and get tired of this and go fuck their own forums up and leave these alone already.

If this keeps up, I vote to find everyone of those bastards and kick their login accounts as well.

drakelord · #4 10-15-2007, 12:13 AM

Layolen isn't sending these. He has also posted a thread telling whoever it is to stop.

All of this has been taken way out of proportion anyway. I've never seen adults act so much like kids in my entire life.

Revilor · #5 10-15-2007, 05:19 AM

I couldn't agree more Drakelord. This has been blown way out of proportion. The last time I check Layolen was helping the community and then gets banned for finding a problem. This has to be worst than people who don't search forums.

devn00b · #6 10-15-2007, 08:23 AM

Gee i feel left out..I didnt get an email...

/cry.

He gets mad when people who know the code look at his OMG LEET find, and say you got nothing, starts breaking the rules and gets banned. so he forks.
Then they try and say that omg were onto somthing look at the ex-devs post! i think its pretty funny. I'd be all for a fork, and making a new login server, hence why in the past i released the login server with the crypto btw, but the way he did things is wrong. And now members of his "fork" are spamming members here.
They should be glad im not the devn00b I used to be. Ask Lucid Vision what i did when they pissed me off.

Ayala · #7 10-15-2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lalolyen

Secondly, and again, if it was open-source, the community, I, KLS, or the few hundred others here that are very active and intelligent could have provided you guys with a method of authenticating sessions, not just outright trusting an account creation based on a key received from the ls server (keep in minds I can "push" a packet anywhere i want and make it appear to be sent from George W's pc itself, that info is just modified packet headers and pushed packets... thats it.)

Being I'm probably just leaving a message on an answering machine here that won't get heard until another 4 or 5 months down the road... This situation is kinda of urgent, not to mention the other community members here that are strangled at the fact they cannot contribute or submit code because of "dev team" inactivity. *not complaining, just repeating*

Suggestion...

Change the usrmeth() , re-release eqemu, keep that to yourself, open up the login server, let the community do what communities do best... Build, create, and improve.

Looks like he was trying to help. make the server login more secure. Not sure exactly where he attacked your code, but not seeing it.

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Originally Posted by Lalolyen

The software is fairly simple, but the main thing they are hiding is their login servers authentication from server to server. Seriously... If you released that, there would be hackers galore right now eating up every server out there, creating SysOp accounts and booting everyone. YES you can control status from the login server though I did find an option in the source of emu to not honor status requests from the login server; I'm sorry but that needs to be on by default... IF I CAN CRACK IT, that means there are a lot of others that can as well.

Seems a good reason to keep it closed if there is a security flaw that big in it. I'd say we had better be glad that a hacker didn't get a hold of it and spam everyones servers with fake accounts first.

Not sure what all the tension is about, but it seems like someone's got their panties in a wad and a flame war ensued.

As far as the private messaging is concerned. I can kind of understand that since it seems like posting something out in the open is obviously a bad idea for them, but not sure how that's bashing the forums. It looks like they don't like the way things went, but didn't see any direct bash comments in there.

Just my thoughts on it is all.

redneckraccoon · #8 10-15-2007, 05:07 PM

Golly, I didn't get any of these so-called PM's either. Now I did read the "interesting" discussion from the minilogin issue, even posted my first post there. I admit that maybe this Lalolyen (I think this is how you spell it) comes on way too strong. He's been labeled a "drama queen" on various forums involving incedents on regular EQ because he drives his points home with a 8 pound sledgehammer instead of a normal hammer. It tends to make people ticked off to have their words thrown in their face with acid and people tend to retaliate, with and without common sense. Who knows who's right at this point, as everyone can interpret the same words different. examples of the many paths of christianity come to mind and the knowledge of 2 or more witnesses to the same occurence tell different recounts come to mind. As for the imbeciles who are sending these PM's, noone is entitled to your opinion, no matter how right you think it is. And no offense to the admins, mods and devs of this community, but I feel you may be acting just a hair childish yourselves. I've read a few of Lalo's last posts and read your responses after you closed said threads to find you are falling short of mature yourselves. The past is the past, learn from it, try not to repeat it, and sure as heck don't dwell on it.

John Adams · #9 10-17-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by devn00b

Gee i feel left out..I didnt get an email...

Me neither. Should I be offended?

boogerific · #10 10-17-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by John Adams

Me neither. Should I be offended?

I could forward mine to you so you don't feel left out.