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General::General Discussion General discussion about EverQuest(tm), EQEMu, and related topics. Do not post support topics here. |
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10-15-2007, 05:07 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Golly, I didn't get any of these so-called PM's either. Now I did read the "interesting" discussion from the minilogin issue, even posted my first post there. I admit that maybe this Lalolyen (I think this is how you spell it) comes on way too strong. He's been labeled a "drama queen" on various forums involving incedents on regular EQ because he drives his points home with a 8 pound sledgehammer instead of a normal hammer. It tends to make people ticked off to have their words thrown in their face with acid and people tend to retaliate, with and without common sense. Who knows who's right at this point, as everyone can interpret the same words different. examples of the many paths of christianity come to mind and the knowledge of 2 or more witnesses to the same occurence tell different recounts come to mind. As for the imbeciles who are sending these PM's, noone is entitled to your opinion, no matter how right you think it is. And no offense to the admins, mods and devs of this community, but I feel you may be acting just a hair childish yourselves. I've read a few of Lalo's last posts and read your responses after you closed said threads to find you are falling short of mature yourselves. The past is the past, learn from it, try not to repeat it, and sure as heck don't dwell on it.
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10-16-2007, 12:48 PM
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I got one! I'm popular!
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10-16-2007, 03:31 PM
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Demi-God
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Originally Posted by redneckraccoon
Golly, I didn't get any of these so-called PM's either. Now I did read the "interesting" discussion from the minilogin issue, even posted my first post there. I admit that maybe this Lalolyen (I think this is how you spell it) comes on way too strong. He's been labeled a "drama queen" on various forums involving incedents on regular EQ because he drives his points home with a 8 pound sledgehammer instead of a normal hammer. It tends to make people ticked off to have their words thrown in their face with acid and people tend to retaliate, with and without common sense. Who knows who's right at this point, as everyone can interpret the same words different. examples of the many paths of christianity come to mind and the knowledge of 2 or more witnesses to the same occurence tell different recounts come to mind. As for the imbeciles who are sending these PM's, noone is entitled to your opinion, no matter how right you think it is. And no offense to the admins, mods and devs of this community, but I feel you may be acting just a hair childish yourselves. I've read a few of Lalo's last posts and read your responses after you closed said threads to find you are falling short of mature yourselves. The past is the past, learn from it, try not to repeat it, and sure as heck don't dwell on it.
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Huh? Where did christianity come from? You sure you understand this situation?
For once I agree with the eqemu teams stance on this issue and this team knows I barely agree with them. Lalolyen got upset because he thought he accomplished something he did not ( cracking encryption for EQ's login server by disassembling the minilogin which contains no encryption algorithims). Not only was he told by various former developers, developers and admins of his error, he was warned after numerous posts that his attitude on the subject was getting out of hand. Simply put this guy just wanted attention and he got it, just wasn't the result he wanted.
To make matters even more interesting his attempt to fork the project is that of frustration and desperation. He is inexperienced in emulator development and the fork will ultimately fail because of his lack of people skills, lack of programming skills plus the team he is conjuring up pretty much by whomever joins his fork.
People need to stop defending Lalolyen in this matter, he is suffering the consequences of his actions.
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10-16-2007, 03:53 PM
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Fire Beetle
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The part about christianity was using it as an example of people interpreting the same writing (the Bible) differently. Think mormons, baptists, presbyterians, etc. As for making it sound like I was supporting his actions, I never said or implied such, just stating facts. Please don't jump to conclusions after speed reading my reply. Wait, I take it back. That would be jumping to conclusions. I'm not trying to insult anyone. The other reason I posted was to see out of curiosity if those that were being underhanded with the Pm's would attempt to send me one. Fortunately they didn't, hopefully due to lack of interest and short attention spans.
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10-16-2007, 06:01 PM
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Dragon
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This post was supposed to be about receiving unwanted and unwarranted PMs NOT a support Laylying (or however you spell it) thread. If you really think she, he or whatever is in the right go over to eqcomedy.org (or whatever that site is) and show your support there, I am sure it will be appreciated over there.
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10-16-2007, 06:56 PM
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Fire Beetle
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For heaven's sake have anyone read my posts all the way thru before they reply? I will say it again. Please pay attention.
* I was trying to entice the idiot PMers.
* I was not supporting or discrediting Lalo, merely stating what I observed and my subsequent view upon it.
* I was trying to be somewhat civil, though it does tick me off a hair to be instantly stereotyped into a group for expressing my view while trying to satisfy my curiosity.
* I did slightly go off topic doing so. I admit fault on this.
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10-16-2007, 07:42 PM
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Demi-God
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redneckraccoon
The part about christianity was using it as an example of people interpreting the same writing (the Bible) differently. Think mormons, baptists, presbyterians, etc. As for making it sound like I was supporting his actions, I never said or implied such, just stating facts. Please don't jump to conclusions after speed reading my reply. Wait, I take it back. That would be jumping to conclusions. I'm not trying to insult anyone. The other reason I posted was to see out of curiosity if those that were being underhanded with the Pm's would attempt to send me one. Fortunately they didn't, hopefully due to lack of interest and short attention spans.
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The only part of my post that referred to your quote was:
"Huh? Where did christianity come from? You sure you understand this situation?"
Don't assume I dedicated a post just for you :P
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10-17-2007, 04:57 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Originally Posted by image
Huh? Where did christianity come from? You sure you understand this situation?
People need to stop defending Lalolyen in this matter, he is suffering the consequences of his actions.
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These were your qoutes I had responded to. Sorry if I came off a bit rough, but it felt like you were kinda flaming me is all. The first quote made it seem as though you took my example the wrong way (it was after all ONLY an example, not an insult to anyone) and the second quote at the end of your post felt as though you felt I had picked sides. Allow me to state that I was not picking sides. I feel no ill towards you or anyone else. Two side notes, the christianity example was the only one that came to mind at that time and I haven't got a PM as of this post. Must be whoever was responsible was dealt with.
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10-17-2007, 10:47 AM
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Demi-God
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Originally Posted by devn00b
Gee i feel left out..I didnt get an email...
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Me neither. Should I be offended?
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10-17-2007, 12:49 PM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Northwestern USA
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Originally Posted by John Adams
Me neither. Should I be offended?
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I could forward mine to you so you don't feel left out. 
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10-17-2007, 05:26 PM
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Dragon
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: England
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I could forward mine to you so you don't feel left out.
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Sorry but that just struck me as to damn funny, Irony is a funny little mess.
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10-19-2007, 01:06 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Wow, looks like you all aren't the only ones that receive these things...
Cease.pdf
Would upload it, but the forums aren't enabled for that, so have to go with a direct link. Not much better than the pm's I'd say, was sent through e-mail.
*EDIT* Link didn't like me, so linking to the thread.
Last edited by Ayala; 10-19-2007 at 09:09 PM..
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10-19-2007, 02:39 PM
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Does this drama ever stop lol Obviously that wasnt really from Sony, and I have to admit, I'm still chuckling lol
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Last edited by WildcardX; 10-19-2007 at 10:45 PM..
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10-19-2007, 03:33 PM
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Eh, speaking from experience, SOE dont send e-mails, they send C&D orders registered mail.
Love how there blaming us for it tho
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10-19-2007, 03:49 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mattmeck
Eh, speaking from experience, SOE dont send e-mails, they send C&D orders registered mail.
Love how there blaming us for it tho
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Blaming you? Might I ask who blamed anyone other than the owner of the e-mail address?
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