EverQuest Classic Progression

Semedaien · #1 03-22-2008, 02:29 PM

Thank you angelox, your advice is helping me greatly... I've played your server, was a real active member, first to drop inny... but no1 played enough...

I have 2 other great people helping me with the Anti-Hack and IP stuff... we are trying to make a new client to use to connect to my server so that it opens an anti hack to detect mq.... if mq is detected, or any other third party programs, it will shut eq off. still in the works... will post any new info on it asap. Thank you again for the advice

<<< Deception from your forums<<<<

Estrang · #2 03-22-2008, 03:56 PM

Daxum has a pretty effective anti warp program from what I understand on the VZ/TZ server, known as Thelieka on here I believe. I've been on his server since December and it appears to be debugged, use to set off a lot of false positives in it's early stages.

Semedaien · #3 03-23-2008, 03:16 PM

yeah... i already spoke with daxum about getting any files or anything off of him, even if I were to pay... but the amount he wanted was unbelievable... but i can understand that the time and devotion of him and his dev team pays off :P

My friends and I are working on a client that is to be used for my server only. The only way to connect to my server would be through that client, which scans for all third-party programs and closes out any that I have listed. It also only allows 1 instance of it to be used per computer. So if anyone wanted to box they would need a few computers

just like the olden days.

eq4me · #4 03-24-2008, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Semedaien

yeah... i already spoke with daxum about getting any files or anything off of him, even if I were to pay... but the amount he wanted was unbelievable... but i can understand that the time and devotion of him and his dev team pays off :P

Feeding of an open project and not contributing back ... what an asshole. Now ban me, I no longer care.

So_1337 · #5 03-24-2008, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by eq4me

Feeding of an open project and not contributing back ... what an asshole. Now ban me, I no longer care.

To be fair, Daxum seems to have done a fair share of contribution already, which is more than most people can claim:

The zone XP modifier now properly adds to XP gain.
Ogres are now properly immune to frontal stuns.
NPCs now regenerate out of combat.
Invis is now broken when looting corpses.

I can understand someone wanting to keep some code to themselves. The contributions he's made to the project are things that are actually part of the original game. It seems that the ones he's keeping to himself are custom ones that keep his server populated, thus giving him a proper environment to test future developments. It's in his self interest to keep them to himself, and to damn him for looking out for himself is asinine.

Call me Ayn Rand on this one (and I'll embrace it proudly), but why should anyone be entitled to his work simply because it's good stuff and they want it? He'll contribute whatever he damn well pleases, and we'll be thankful for every bit of it. He doesn't owe anyone anything.

Done ranting now. Just had to stick up for someone that I've seen contribute some nice additions to the code.

Angelox · #6 03-24-2008, 02:07 AM

You are both right in some ways - I just spent the morning trying to think of a nice way to tell you all I don't like selling what should be open source, but Eq4ME blurted it out.
We got Devs working their ass off for us - to name a few, WildcardX, Cavedude, KLS. Not to mention all the forum people currently working to help the Devs out.
I don't think they (Devs) ever tried to sell anything EqEmu related - Personally, any money I've had available for EQEMU, it's went to it via donations. PEQ Server is the biggest one on the block, and is openly available (Database) for anyone who wants it.
After all the work so many people has put in to this project over the years, I would feel ashamed to try and sell any part of it.

**TheLieka** · #7 03-24-2008, 10:11 AM

I've got a server that's running with development contributions from a lot of people other than myself. I didn't put up an ebay auction and try to sell my source and database; you came to me and asked how much it would cost for me to sell you my hobby. So don't bring this shit to these boards and try to make me sound like a douche bag.

I prefer facts to interpretations, here's the PM that was sent to me on our forums:

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Originally Posted by Daxum

I spent about 1000 hours getting the database to the point that it is now. I've never thought about selling it before, but if you're interested, I'd cut a copy for $1000 (like I said... if you're interested). I'd also want to clear that with some of my devs that have helped put in time above and beyond my own.

As far as having time to help you sort out your database, there's not a lot I can do right now (as I've got extremely limited time for these projects for the foreseeable future), and it sounds like you're just trying to rebuild what we've already built.

If you're interested, let me know and I'll have the conversation with our other devs.

Thanks,
Dax

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Originally Posted by Deception

Daxum I have a question and I really would appreciate any help/answers you may give.

I am willing to pay, but is there anyway I can get some tips or advice on how to create my spell merchants and get rid of all the annoying npc's...

Im using PEQ's latest db, but editting a lot of it. I'm trying to make a server just like your's but PVE. Is there anyway I can get some peices of your db? Or any of it? If you can contribute, I will either A.) Use your server name in the login and make it PVE. B.) Use your server's name in the MOTD for thanks and appreciation. or C.) The above with a donation of USD $. Pending on what you are willing to do. I understand if you laugh your ass off at this message. You dont know me, nor would you care to be bothered by me. But I am trying to host a Classic pre-kunark progression server, PVE.

Believe me, when my server shuts down (I hope that I'm dead first), I'll post all of our source, and database here. If there's something specific about my server that someone is interested in, then I'm always willing to help out. No one has asked me for my hack detector source yet, so making uninformed accusations about what I would or wouldn't be willing to release is just flame-bait.

And no, I'm not really interested in handing out my full database to everyone that asks for it (and there have been a lot of people ask us for it). That doesn't mean that I'm an asshole, and it doesn't mean that I'm closing myself off like ProjectEQ. If I was interested in making money (or even compensating for my effort), I wouldn't refuse donations from our population, but I've never accepted (let alone requested) a penny from anyone. However, if someone comes to me and asks me to put a pricetag on it, it doesn't really make sense to come back and call me an asshole for humoring the offer (and no, I didn't expect him to actually do it). I'm willing to help, but before you start calling me out, what have you done for the project other than ask for someone else to put all of the sweat into it for you, so you can clone their work?

Dax

P.S. None of this is directed at Ax, obviously.

Pfhor · #8 05-27-2008, 07:26 AM

Where can I download the classic interface to use on this server?

Angelox · #9 05-27-2008, 07:52 AM

Usually, when the server is custom, custom files are available at their forums - you might want to check there.

swank nightmare · #10 05-27-2008, 10:18 PM

Is the server down right now? I can't seem to log on.

Also, is the link to the forums broken or is that down too?