The current system

Windcatcher has never been an EQEmu developer, he works on side projects.

If he did that he was wrong, however using him as an example of what EQEmu does (when he isnt a developer) is another flawed argument!

[cavedude]

Going back to 8/10/03 Windcatcher's name only appears once in the changelog:

==09/15/2005
FatherNitwit: Fixed coin trading bug reported by Windcatcher

You can grab the full changelog from CVS if you wish to confirm.

I think it's really messed up to drag his name through the mud. He's a good guy, and has been a huge contributor to EQEmu. His 3rd party tools are top notch. Why lie?

[Amra]

Every time I log in to these forums I see some message from some disgruntled person posting random crap about something and acting dumb. They ask if they can use another client (why titanium), or this code is crap and doesn't work etc. I am sure they are some user from a long while ago that didn't get their way or someone made them mad and they decide every now and then to post random crap on the forums. It's not just this person. There are a couple others.

Like cavedude said, windcatcher is a major contributer to eqemu. Either directly or indirectly he has done a hell of a lot for the project. Your talking about some code that was submitted 3 years ago? Why would you even care by now?

If you don't like it go away. Why waste your freakin time.

[fault]

I would pretty much say CD works his can off day in and day out with the PEQ databases, Which in reality is currently the most updated and well kept database/quest team for eqemu. To say or even badger him about *not doing anything for eqemu* is a load of bull.

as for the disagreement bans that were spoke of, I think I have recently *dissagreed* or made some comments apart from what cd and other devs feel/think, and I haven't been banned.. Kinda disproves your statement there.

If you go to any open source community and act like an ass clown you will be banned from the forums.

Open source means the code is open source, not the forums.

Corv, to have any decent emu, it takes years to develop it, REALLY good ones go slowly with clean code, Just as EQEMU is going, I can point out several MMO emus that have rushed things and have ended up with complete and utter garbage for code with no hope of fixing it except by rewriting everything from scratch.

If you have code to add then submit it, get of the high horse and help out, it is open source which means anyone can submit code for it.

[corvanus]

to modify my prior post wildcardx was the one who did it not windcatcher my appology wind now that said peq isnt eqemu is it that is a seperate project, and if he is incharge of that project it doesnt or shouldnt grant him developer titles and powers here unless he is developing code for the emu

To see all the disagreement bans simply look in the memberslist or the idiot posters category which i must say is REAL mature to call others an idiot publicly like that great work admins oh yeah thats really going to encourage others to be involved...

Amra i would suggest you either calm down or stop posting you show both your ignorance and immaturity with such a rude post so i give you a thought... grow up or shut up and 0.7 is not 3 years old and code is code 1 day or 10 years it is still MY Code and shouldnt have been ripped off the way it was. as for "random crap" it is far from that it was a suggestion and concern as was previously explained and you are just an immature and rude angry persona nd i have no further time to waste on YOU.

As for wildcardx (AGAIN SORRY WINDCATCHER) he did steal my code and delete my posts my code was part of the fixes that made this compatable with mysql 5 yet you dont see any mention of it not comming from anyone but him and that sickens me opensource or not it still came from MY Brain not his if i wished to press the issue i could easily get a friend involved who knows firsthand that i fixed the code but its not worth my time for one for two it would do no good anyway.

I love how the 15 year old trollers have to come shoot their mouth off in defense and offense please littleone run along your mommy is calling you

i ask that this post be closed or deleted before more flamers and trollers decide to come shoot their mouths off as well

[So_1337]

You know, you aren't the first one to complain about code being ripped off. I know that's one of devn00b's major gripes as well. That's really troubling to me, and I really wish there were some way to heal those old wounds and get things sorted out so that everyone's happy and can get back to what's important; moving this project forward. However, we can only deal with what we're given, and most of the folks doing heavy work now and submitting/committing code weren't around for the past drama.

When was the last time you saw a post from FNW? I think the last time I saw a Doodman post was the whole login server debacle. (Please, oh please, don't let it be a mistake for me to bring that up...)

Are things here a little weird as far as leadership goes? Sure. Have there been mistakes in the past? Absolutely. Will I stop sounding like Donald Rumsfeld, asking myself questions and answering them? Definitely.

The people who have stepped up to keep things in order here and moving forward (Angelox, Mattmeck, Cavedude, and plenty more) have done so in spite of the way the forums have been managed in the past. The people who have been contributing code and fixes (Cavedude listed many, many coders, and there have even been recent ones putting in heavy work like TheLieka, Wild, and KLS) have built upon what's there in the past and might be just lucky enough, like myself, to have come into this project at a time where all the drama seemed like ancient history and they were able to start fresh without it weighing on them.

That's just my cock-eyed, optimistic view of things, though. I'd like to think we can all play nice, everyone can get credit for what they've done, and whatever issues people had with the previous project higher-ups can be shelved, since they aren't even around.

[TheLieka]

Fuck everyone with stars in their titles. They aren't living up to this guy's standards!

Dax