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01-02-2009, 02:20 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Ringing in the new year w/o PEQ is a horrible start. Let's hope left4dead replaces the void in my heart.
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01-02-2009, 11:57 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 3
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Fallout 3 and Scars of Amerous is filling my time at the moment.
Poopie.
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01-04-2009, 10:14 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: KY
Posts: 4
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Wow, I've tried all kinda of EQ servers since PEQ has been down but I cant find any that I like as much. 
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01-04-2009, 10:15 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: KY
Posts: 4
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Keeping my fingers crossed it will come back up soon!
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01-05-2009, 01:47 AM
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Banned
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: I live between Layer 3 and 4.
Posts: 13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tlbww
Ringing in the new year w/o PEQ is a horrible start. Let's hope left4dead replaces the void in my heart.
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But Left4Dead lacks Reno and Flabby to harass. . .
I don't mean to stir the pot (if I am); I have to wonder [a question directed at cavedude or FatherNitWit], is the BIOS set to shut down the machine when it reaches a temperature zone on the processor or chipset? Or is it the case it literally get so hot it hard locks?
Discussing the former, these Pentium4-class machines operate at pretty extreme temperatures, and perhaps the BIOS setting needs to be updated. Pentium4 (Northwood and Prescott, not sure about the older Willamette core) are rated all the way up to 75C and 65C operating temperatures. Intel chipsets from that era (865, 875, 850, E7210) are rated between 65c-80c, while SiS chipset (645, 655) are rated for 110c (who needs a heater when you have a SiS P4!) I can vouch for this in testing: I've got a 3GHz Prescott still on my network running fanless with a 0.16cw rated heatsink, and a single 120mm (but 28cfm) exhaust in the power supply, that lives permanently in a 28c room (second bedroom, only one A/C vent unblocked, otherwise no air flow. it's full of folding machines) that hasn't skipped a beat since late 2004. Hard drives are also fault tolerant up to 40-55c. PC2700-PC3200 runs all the way up to 60c in some cases, and not that it matters, but some rambus modules go even higher. MOST ATX consumer-class power supplies are also usually rated at 75c with all of the rails loaded.
Either way, I'm just trying to wrap my head around how this datacenter (or office, or whatever it is) is heating up so much it's shutting you down. To me, this situation is unconceivable unless a human is hitting the emergency shut off switch for the grid or your server hardware is simply failing.
The only other thought I have is those hot-as-hell rack mounted APC and TrippLite units somehow pooping out. I've burned myself on those shiny APC Symmetra LX pieces of... but I've never seen them shut down due to heat. I have however seen CAT5E skin melt all over a TrippLite 3U unit, short out, put on a dazzling array of black/dark gray smoke, accompanied by a high-pitched noise with a few sparks, a loud bang, then proceed blow all of the line conditioners in the building before we could get the power off to that rack and a class C extinguisher in there. But I'm sure that doesn't apply here. RIGHT? 
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01-05-2009, 04:56 AM
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The PEQ Dude
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: -
Posts: 1,988
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itchybottom
But Left4Dead lacks Reno and Flabby to harass. . .
I don't mean to stir the pot (if I am); I have to wonder [a question directed at cavedude or FatherNitWit], is the BIOS set to shut down the machine when it reaches a temperature zone on the processor or chipset? Or is it the case it literally get so hot it hard locks?
Discussing the former, these Pentium4-class machines operate at pretty extreme temperatures, and perhaps the BIOS setting needs to be updated. Pentium4 (Northwood and Prescott, not sure about the older Willamette core) are rated all the way up to 75C and 65C operating temperatures. Intel chipsets from that era (865, 875, 850, E7210) are rated between 65c-80c, while SiS chipset (645, 655) are rated for 110c (who needs a heater when you have a SiS P4!) I can vouch for this in testing: I've got a 3GHz Prescott still on my network running fanless with a 0.16cw rated heatsink, and a single 120mm (but 28cfm) exhaust in the power supply, that lives permanently in a 28c room (second bedroom, only one A/C vent unblocked, otherwise no air flow. it's full of folding machines) that hasn't skipped a beat since late 2004. Hard drives are also fault tolerant up to 40-55c. PC2700-PC3200 runs all the way up to 60c in some cases, and not that it matters, but some rambus modules go even higher. MOST ATX consumer-class power supplies are also usually rated at 75c with all of the rails loaded.
Either way, I'm just trying to wrap my head around how this datacenter (or office, or whatever it is) is heating up so much it's shutting you down. To me, this situation is unconceivable unless a human is hitting the emergency shut off switch for the grid or your server hardware is simply failing.
The only other thought I have is those hot-as-hell rack mounted APC and TrippLite units somehow pooping out. I've burned myself on those shiny APC Symmetra LX pieces of... but I've never seen them shut down due to heat. I have however seen CAT5E skin melt all over a TrippLite 3U unit, short out, put on a dazzling array of black/dark gray smoke, accompanied by a high-pitched noise with a few sparks, a loud bang, then proceed blow all of the line conditioners in the building before we could get the power off to that rack and a class C extinguisher in there. But I'm sure that doesn't apply here. RIGHT? 
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I don't have details, but I do know we are getting kernel core dumps due to excessive heat. I'm hoping the machine will then shuts itself off to prevent damage. But, I don't know if it does or not.
As for how it happens, it's part of a server farm with a malfunctioning (or possibly even non-functioning) AC system... Heatsinks and fans merely dissipate heat, they don't magically make it disappear. That heat has to go somewhere, and it will begin filling the room. That's where the AC comes in. Its job isn't really to keep the room cool, but rather to replace the hot air dissipated by the servers with cool (or at least cooler) air. If the AC is not functioning that room will become hot as hell (I speak from personal experience) and the internal temps of the servers will skyrocket since they will no longer be able to dissipate any heat, since there will be no place to dissipate it to
I have 6 personal machines that when put in the same closed room raises the air temperature at least 5 degrees in the winter time. (Granted, it is a small room) Still, if 10 machines can do that, imagine what a couple hundred can do!
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01-05-2009, 05:54 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: nj, usa
Posts: 24
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My room is cold as hell without my lil heater aka PC heh. They should make the cases out of acrylic and fill them with cooking oil (doesn't conduct electricity), then stick a mini AC unit directly into the cooking oil which triggers when temp reaches a yellow status. That way if both ac fail at least you can fry your french fries in your PC for some good pc flavor.
Either way, waiting is fine but it might be nice if we can get a backup server somewhere and set a script to get database copied to it daily. Then pull it up and run till server up and copy the newer DB back over.
Find myself playing many single player games recently though so all is good lol.
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01-05-2009, 12:16 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: here
Posts: 10
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well hell
got ps3 fer xmas so im aight till it comes back up
so ill begaming at least till the zombies come 
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01-06-2009, 05:45 AM
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I know how to fix that!
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Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 447
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Patiently Waiting
I really hope the problem gets sorted soon. I had just gotten my sister back into the game and we were really having fun. I gave her all my prized gear I have treasured for years. Didnt need it with bazaar finally working. Im finally set up with some decent gear and this has to happen. Ive played a little on Irreverent and thats been a little fun but it sure isnt home.
Heres a song to show ya how I feel about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsPh_8Dxl3E
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01-06-2009, 10:20 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Columbus Grove, Ohio
Posts: 22
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Reminds me of Richie Truxillo that made some corny music like the songs "EQ Obsessed", "Servers are down again" and "If I Had A Billion Platinum". Though at this time the Servers down again is what came to mind.
http://www.last.fm/music/Richie+Truxillo
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01-10-2009, 06:07 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: KY
Posts: 4
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peq up
finnaly peq the grand creation is up and running im always trying to find pepole to play with im ma lv 25 ranger named deriikkun send me a message plz if u want to play
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07-27-2009, 11:29 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: norrath
Posts: 1
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w00t! come on, im fighting with my GF and i need something to dooo!!!! 
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07-28-2009, 12:52 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: b
Posts: 1,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PrimerTC
w00t! come on, im fighting with my GF and i need something to dooo!!!! 
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You sir, make me sad. Can someone lock this necro post?
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