Past, Present and Future

[devn00b]

Originally Posted by trevius

Devn00b, if I wasn't personally against deleting posts, I would probably have deleted that first one you made in this thread.

What concern is the Official LS of yours other than as a competitor to your new Public LS alternative?

By "contacting our current host", I am sure KLS means Doodman. He isn't on a 24X7 contact schedule. The people making the decisions are in the process of figuring out the best possible solution. If that takes a few days or even a couple of weeks to make sure that we get the best solution, then that is perfectly fine with me. There is no reason to make hasty decisions that will be regretted later.

Sure, setting up a brand new site with no posts, forums, wiki, LS, etc to move from a previous host is quick and simple, but when you have to move stuff designed around old software and services, it is going to take work and time no matter what. If they have an option to use the current host with nice upgrades, then that would prevent them from having to do the extra work to move it. But, is it even possible to get all of the upgrades necessary to resolve the current issues with the emu, or would we be better off just moving it? Those are some big questions that take time to consider and discuss with multiple people who aren't all on the same schedule. I am sure there are plenty of other things that I didn't even mention that need to be considered.

Yes, there are issues with the current hosting for the Official LS. They will be worked out soon enough, so there isn't any reason to get offensive about it.

I don't think anyone on the EQEmu team has any problem with the new LS by Devn00b and Image, but I also think we are all getting very tired of you putting us down to try to make yourselves look better. There is just no need for it and I am sure it won't be tolerated much longer if it keeps up. We already stated clearly that we don't want your advertisements for your unaffiliated Login Server anywhere other than in Off-Topic where they belong. To keep putting down the official one and mentioning how much better yours is, is essentially a cheap way of advertising for it. So, please stop it.

I am not wanting to start any drama here, but in order to keep the peace, would you please just stop the posts about it completely? If you really must mention or discuss your new LS, please do so in off-topic only. There are already too many threads scattered across the boards in the past few days. It seems like every answer you give has some promo for your LS in it.


Exaggerated a little, but it isn't all that far off-base, sadly :P

Again, I am not trying to start drama here, but in order to stop this before it gets out of hand, I think this needed to be said. BTW, if one of the admin's thinks this post is out-of-line, then feel free to delete it and I apologize.

See trevius, you forget how long I've been here. Ive had to move the site to a new host more times than you can imagine. Im more than familiar with it. The actual move only takes 24hrs, and maybe another 24 to get it setup fully. Don't take me for a fool, or forget who your speaking to. Ive been with this project since almost its inception.

My question was a simple one. She answered, and I thanked her. I dont remember asking you, or even mentioning your name so please stay out of it. I'm not sure what your problem is, I don't really care.

Where in my question did I promote my LS? Again I asked a simple question. No need for your post.

[trevius]

As I said, I am not trying to start drama. There are few things I hate more than drama on forums.

While you weren't directly promoting your LS in this particular thread, you did still manage to mention how speedy the response time is for your own hosting service.

Here are a few quotes from random threads with you putting down the Official LS and putting yours in the light (this is the type of stuff I am mostly talking about):

Its the same bug that image listed above. Only person that can fix it is Doodman. Our Loginserver doesn't have this issue.

Best bet is trying irc and hoping that doodman or rogean or KLS or someone is there that will fix it..but that's pretty hard.

It is a separate and full fledged login server. Image and myself run and maintain it. We give it much more attention than the official login server.

Still even with the downtime lastnight, our box has a much better uptime record than the current box and that is a fact that cannot be denied.

Times like these are when a 2nd login server is needed...Just sayin.

Oh yeah...and btw...ours is up =p

The whole problem with your guys plan is to run off donations. You know the project has tryed this before right? You know how it ended up? It ended up doodman paying $39 or whatever a month. Or Hogie...

Yes, we know there are issues with the current one, the team is in the process or correcting those issues for good. There is no reason to try to scare people away from the Official LS to get them to move to yours. It is nice to have the option available, but I think the EQEmu team needs to back our own LS. Once it is moved, we will finally have the control and stability to do so. Until then, I am trying to keep faith in the team up, so people know that thing will be working great soon enough.

And yes, I know you and Image have been around longer than almost anyone here and have contributed a ton. I won't pretend to know all of the history about where you guys disappeared off too (EQ2Emu maybe) for the past couple of years, or what happened to your admin tags. But, if you really have the best of the project in mind, you wouldn't put it down so much.

[devn00b]

Right so now let me get this straight, I can't discuss the LS? this a new rule?

I cant tell people to try and contact admins so they can do their job and admin? If this is a new rule it should be added and everyone has to follow it. Not just me.

Not one thing I posted was incorrect, or a Lie. You don't have to like what I say, or Accept it, however I have followed the rules. So either change the rules or get off my case.