Tallon/Vallon Zek Server

[Yeormom]

Originally Posted by image

Looks like sarcasm to me, seems only fair for him to be able to defend himself.

I actually would have never read a single post in this thread but I keep getting PMs on IRC telling me that I was being flamed so like Image said, only stating the facts.

[VallonTallonZek]

Yea Yeormom, the 4th post down was bruuuttalllll .

[Yeormom]

Well, by the definition, that phrase is future tense.

For my English experts out there, next != current.

[VallonTallonZek]

Thats what she said.

[image]

Originally Posted by VallonTallonZek

Thats what she said.

Nothing like mistake in identity

[trevius]

Originally Posted by Yeormom

I didn't simply download a PEQ database and launch a server with a known EverQuest server name when no other PvP servers we're available so I am not fortunate enough to simply launch a generic server. Thanks for your comments.

Saying that all VZ/TZ did was start a server running the PEQ DB and turn on PVP is an insult, not "stating the facts". So, yes you were participating in the flaming. Their team has been responsible for providing the community with some very nice code that they wrote for use on their server. Some of the most notable contributions they have made has been the Hacker Detection system (HUGE help), the IP Limiting, and much more. Look at some of TheLieka's code submissions to see more. While they may base their content off of the PEQ database, I don't even need to play on their server to know that they have made adjustments to it.

PVP in EQ is probably some of the worst PVP ever (IMO), since it was designed to be a PVE game and PVP was just something thrown in later. And PVP in EQEmu which is an incomplete version of EQLive is even worse. So, for them to have a popular PVP server means they probably had to do a fair amount of balancing,bug fixes, and other adjustments. They obviously must be doing something right as I have seen no decent PVP servers able to compete with them by a longshot. If it was as easy as you say, it would be easy to compete with them, but it is obviously not.

Either way, the flaming is over. Flames happened, and we can overlook them as long as they don't keep happening.

I think you PVP guys are just too used to fighting other people :P

[VallonTallonZek]

When you get your Dev vs. Dev server up, I am gonna corpse camp you Trevis...

[Yeormom]

Originally Posted by trevius

Saying that all VZ/TZ did was start a server running the PEQ DB and turn on PVP is an insult, not "stating the facts".

Actually, no...that's exactly what he did originally. The server had gained its popularity long before all of those wonderful features we're implemented. Thus, a fact. The server today is nothing like it was a year ago when TheLieka was the full time administrator, both in features and in community.

Also, you do realize most of that code was by Null right?

I think you PVP guys are just too used to fighting other people :P

How else are you gonna win if you don't fight yo?