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Old 04-13-2009, 11:20 PM
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If you zerg I will train and say it was an accident.
That is against the play nice policy /ban.
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:22 PM
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you cant ban me, ill hack your loginserver and call you bro a lot in vent.
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:22 PM
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Does the play nice policy apply extra to moderated users?
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:23 PM
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Does the play nice policy apply extra to moderated users?
I am the purgatory of users go me
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Old 04-14-2009, 08:07 PM
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Thus, a fact. The server today is nothing like it was a year ago when TheLieka was the full time administrator, both in features and in community.
Also, you do realize most of that code was by Null right?
you do realize that Null and TheLieka are on the same team right? and furthermore, you do realize that the EQEmu community (that means all players, and all GMs, from all servers) benefits much MUCH more as a whole, when the server heads aren't bickering amongst each other over petty, irrelevant issues that could easily be handled and resolved privately.

with that being said, any server dev. that puts in a respectable amount of time into his/her server is going to be offended when they not only have to deal with a player falsely slandering that server, but also and especially when other server devs join in on the action. i know these servers are like our children, but let's all try to lead by example, eh?

Every EQEmu server benefits from every other EQEmu server. people have left VZTZ Server for PEQ, and people have left PEQ for VZTZ. players hop servers until they find the one they like, period. however, if new players discover EQEmu and see a bunch of server devs squabbling.. well, lets just say it doesn't encourage community growth.

Now to focus on some things about only VZTZ that i haven't seen addressed yet..
1)Our rules are very clearly posted and easy to read/find. our GMs are very firm, but very fair, and are ALWAYS willing to listen to a player's opinion on a ban as long as its done respectfully.

2)Our GMs do NOT play on our server. They are NOT allowed to play for any reason, or under any circumstances. Any staff member caught doing this would be instantly banned for blatantly disregarding the integrity of the server/community. doing this is a slap in the face to fellow GMs and isnt tolerated by us (personally, when i get the itch to play, i log on PEQ, Irreverent(sp?), or secrets total anarchy).

3)its a pvp server, emotions run high around here, and players do try to get their enemies banned through false accusations. Our Staff takes cheating/hacking/MQ all very seriously, but we have to be 100% positive before banning a player. many players scream hacks as soon as something happens that they do not understand.

and lastly, 4)EVERY SERVER has players that cheat, more specifically, EVERY GAME has players that cheat. Baseball has cheaters, EQLive had TONS of cheaters, blackjack has cheaters. Anywhere that you have some form of competition between human beings, you will also have people that try to get "ahead of the curve" but taking shortcuts (steroids, MQ, card counting, etc).
on VZTZ, as a staff, we do our very best to identify and then terminate cheaters asap. so please, feel free to log on to the server and look for cheaters (you may end up staying, its that much fun ). but if do you find any, we'd be happy to check into it and take appropriate action. just the same as im sure any other server devs that care about their server would do.

-Sirken
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Old 04-14-2009, 08:54 PM
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One last thing Yeormom.. posts 38 and 4 contradict themselves.

in post 38 you say:
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I actually would have never read a single post in this thread but I keep getting PMs on IRC telling me that I was being flamed so like Image said, only stating the facts.
however, in post #4 you said:
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You'll have to wait a few months for the next decent PvP server~ several are in development.
Keep in mind that Post 4 was made before any representatives from VZ/TZ staff (or players), said anything in this thread at all. It was a blatant shot at the staff and the community that resides on the VZ/TZ Server, and it’s not appreciated.

Yeormom, Everyone knows about your server, and while myself and the rest of the staff at VZ/TZ wish you and your staff the best of luck, we do not do so at the expense of you bad mouthing us, our players, and our server in a poor attempt to make your own project look better.
If u put in the work, and your project offers something that players want, they will come to you, and with you they shall stay. But trying to spur community growth by means of slander, and potential player poaching is just not very becoming for a server dev.
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Old 04-19-2009, 05:36 PM
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Haha, I have nothing to add to this. It's good to see our closest friends Richardo, Image, and Yeormom come out of the woodwork when they're trying to promote a server. The bottom line is this: you guys have project ADD. You get a wild hair in your ass and decide to set up an EQEmu server, spend more time talking shit about other servers - in this case ours (which, I kindly point out, has had a MUCH longer run than any of your previous projects), at which point you may or may not actually bring your project live, then you and your project fades into obscurity within 6 weeks. Everyone else in the community is aware of this concept; I guess I have to be the one to let you in on the joke.

Talk all the shit you want, the players know which projects will be here and which will not. (unless, of course, some of you find another way to attack the public login server and shit in everyone's wheaties - again)

In summary: Make more anonymous forum accounts to agree with yourselves. No one cares about your opinions.

Dax
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Old 04-19-2009, 07:19 PM
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Haha, I have nothing to add to this. It's good to see our closest friends Richardo, Image, and Yeormom come out of the woodwork when they're trying to promote a server. The bottom line is this: you guys have project ADD. You get a wild hair in your ass and decide to set up an EQEmu server, spend more time talking shit about other servers - in this case ours (which, I kindly point out, has had a MUCH longer run than any of your previous projects), at which point you may or may not actually bring your project live, then you and your project fades into obscurity within 6 weeks. Everyone else in the community is aware of this concept; I guess I have to be the one to let you in on the joke.

Talk all the shit you want, the players know which projects will be here and which will not. (unless, of course, some of you find another way to attack the public login server and shit in everyone's wheaties - again)

In summary: Make more anonymous forum accounts to agree with yourselves. No one cares about your opinions.

Dax
I never said anything bad about your server but thanks for letting me know what side of the issue I am supposed to be on.
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Old 04-20-2009, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TheLieka View Post
Haha, I have nothing to add to this. It's good to see our closest friends Richardo, Image, and Yeormom come out of the woodwork when they're trying to promote a server. The bottom line is this: you guys have project ADD. You get a wild hair in your ass and decide to set up an EQEmu server, spend more time talking shit about other servers - in this case ours (which, I kindly point out, has had a MUCH longer run than any of your previous projects), at which point you may or may not actually bring your project live, then you and your project fades into obscurity within 6 weeks. Everyone else in the community is aware of this concept; I guess I have to be the one to let you in on the joke.

Talk all the shit you want, the players know which projects will be here and which will not. (unless, of course, some of you find another way to attack the public login server and shit in everyone's wheaties - again)

In summary: Make more anonymous forum accounts to agree with yourselves. No one cares about your opinions.

Dax
EDIT: That just got you a one week ban.
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