Tallon/Vallon Zek Server

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Originally Posted by TheLieka

Haha, I have nothing to add to this. It's good to see our closest friends Richardo, Image, and Yeormom come out of the woodwork when they're trying to promote a server. The bottom line is this: you guys have project ADD. You get a wild hair in your ass and decide to set up an EQEmu server, spend more time talking shit about other servers - in this case ours (which, I kindly point out, has had a MUCH longer run than any of your previous projects), at which point you may or may not actually bring your project live, then you and your project fades into obscurity within 6 weeks. Everyone else in the community is aware of this concept; I guess I have to be the one to let you in on the joke.

Talk all the shit you want, the players know which projects will be here and which will not. (unless, of course, some of you find another way to attack the public login server and shit in everyone's wheaties - again)

In summary: Make more anonymous forum accounts to agree with yourselves. No one cares about your opinions.

Dax

I never said anything bad about your server but thanks for letting me know what side of the issue I am supposed to be on.

[Aergad]

lmmfao so now your saying he attacked the loginserver that is just on crappy hardware and breaks alot on its own? wow dude image they really dont like you lol

[trevius]

Originally Posted by Aergad

lmmfao so now your saying he attacked the loginserver that is just on crappy hardware and breaks alot on its own? wow dude image they really dont like you lol

Not that what TheLieka said needs to be justified here, but the thing you find so funny does have facts to back it up. Doodman caught devn00b crashing the Login Server more than once. Devn00b admitted to it openly (directly to me in IRC at least). Devn00b also said in IRC that if the LS had been crashed that way other than the times that devn00b admitted to crashing it, that it was probably Image doing it. Though, he claims that any time they were crashing it was due to them doing "testing" while developing their own Login Server.

And Aergad, your judge of character isn't exactly the best according to this recent post where your trusted hosting provider gave you the boot and "stole" your work:
http://www.eqemulator.net/forums/showthread.php?t=27835

So, please if you must criticize the staff here, try to have all of the information before making any claims. Otherwise, please refrain from the cynical comments.

The only reason I went as far as to explain this is because I think it is important that people understand some of the frustrations of the team, and why certain members here might not be shown the respect that we show to all of the normal members. I am honestly a bit surprised that we even tolerate certain people to the point that we have so far. I have so much more to say on this topic that I could write a book about it. But, this is not the place, nor time, for that :P

[Aergad]

I was in irc dev admitted to it TWICE then said he didnt know hat image did that isnt saying anything about accusing image of doing it just that he didnt knowhat image did.

Thing is these ttwo have done more for the community in terms of the code base then any staff member presently active and you guys shit all over them.

Yes i know i got boned pretty bad but that was a simple mistake not like i heard any warnings from anyone about the guy.

All im saying is that you know simply by virtue of all the work they have done for the community as a whole they should be given a bit of respect ya know. thats like a doctor saving yoru life you getting off the table and kicking him in the balls repeatedly

It wasnt criticizim by the way im just sayin its not like they were attacking the ls for the whole time it was having issues devnoob said twice TWICE so TheLeika really shouldnt be blaming them for the whole time the ls has been screwing up when everyone says that it was caused by one pretty old crappy hardware plus other things too like the wiki and website as well.

[trevius]

Originally Posted by Aergad

I was in irc dev admitted to it TWICE then said he didnt know hat image did that isnt saying anything about accusing image of doing it just that he didnt knowhat image did.

First he said it was 3 times, then days later he said it was 2 times. Conveniently getting less and less each time :P He was caught red-handed, so he had to admit to it lol! How many times did it happen that he didn't get caught for? Would you tell everyone the truth if you were repeatedly crashing the public LS while trying to convince the community to trust you and switch to your LS? Even if it was only those 2 or 3 times, I find it interesting that the exact same technique that Devn00b used to crash the Login Server was also used to repeatedly and intentionally crash almost every popular Server on the Public LS just days after he had crashed the LS.

Originally Posted by Aergad

Thing is these ttwo have done more for the community in terms of the code base then any staff member presently active and you guys shit all over them.

I don't know where you are getting this information. Have you seen the hundreds of SVN updates in just the past 6 months? About 1/3rd of the current change log is from the past 6 months since the new SVN was put into place, and the change log goes back to 2003! So, out of the past 6 years, 1/3rd of that work has been done in the past 6 months...Impressive to say the least, IMO.

Even though the current changelog does not include the full log from the very beginning, even if you were to total up the number of changes in either quantity or quality, I think you will find that your statement is false. I don't think anyone in the entire EQEmu changelog history (even prior to what the current one shows) even comes close to how much KLS has done for the project. Next would probably be FatherNitwit. So, again, read up before making blind statements.

Originally Posted by Aergad

Yes i know i got boned pretty bad but that was a simple mistake not like i heard any warnings from anyone about the guy.

The only advice I can give here is that you try trusting people who have earned it. If someone comes out of nowhere and offers you something for free, chances are you will get what you paid for.

Originally Posted by Aergad

All im saying is that you know simply by virtue of all the work they have done for the community as a whole they should be given a bit of respect ya know. thats like a doctor saving yoru life you getting off the table and kicking him in the balls repeatedly

It doesn't matter how much you give if you can't prove yourself to be worthy of trust and respect.

Originally Posted by Aergad

It wasnt criticizim by the way im just sayin its not like they were attacking the ls for the whole time it was having issues devnoob said twice TWICE so TheLeika really shouldnt be blaming them for the whole time the ls has been screwing up when everyone says that it was caused by one pretty old crappy hardware plus other things too like the wiki and website as well.

It is funny that it is still running on the same hardware and yet somehow seems to be MUCH better than it was during all of that drama.

[TheLieka]

*golfclap*

Dax

[Aergad]

not really it still does go down it is just bounced faster now and actually i do have changelogs prior to 0.6 versions of the emulator which goe back heck probably almost all the way and most of your basecode was done by them just because its tweaked doesnt mean they didnt lay the foundation you know. without that foundation they helped lay there would be nothing for anyone to build upon give credit where credit is due.

I read all the posts about it, yeah running on the same hardware and kls' answer was to shut the site down entirely for what two weeks or so because apache was using too many resources between the wiki and the forums mysql queries?

in any court aside from the admitted attacks the rest is circumstantial is all im saying. So yes to quote you... before making accusations have facts aside from 2 or 3 instances that were admitted to. There is no proof it was either of them all the times it crashed and its been admitted by the person takling care of the ls now that most of the issues were related to apache and mysql and lack of server resources. Unless of course you are calling kls a liar in her posts?

Thats all im saying is you are accusing them because devnoob admitted to it 2 or 3 times your blaming the whole thing ont hem because the emu staff arent too thrilled that there is a new public loginserver system out for anyone to use. not based on proof that they had anything to do with the long term issues with the loginserver.