did as suggested, tried it with the guild lobby, cut/paste the player.pl and #reloadpl, and worked. cut/paste back into templates folder, #reloadpl, doesn't work. now what I don't understand is there isn't anything in the guild lobby folder, cept the guildhall instance creation script, so i'm not seeing what would be conflicting with the EVENT_LEVEL_UP. btw is there a way to broadcast, instead of having "$name shouts, blah blah blah". was looking more for a system msg world wide, then having the player shout it world wide.
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