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Old 08-31-2010, 02:43 PM
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There are only 3 possibilities

1. like you said, Host got the message, rebooted the server, but the server did not come back up

2. Host has been contacted, but has not reboot it yet for whatever reason

3. FNW has not yet contacted the host, either did not read the msg from CD or just too busy with other stuff (vacation maybe?) and put it off.


Which one do you think is the most likely case?
any clue if they fed the hampstetrs?
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Old 08-30-2010, 08:54 PM
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Alright, Gaeorn made it very clear, but im going to go into it in more detail. The server is in Co. it is being hosted for FREE by a company FNW worked for. Cavedude asked FNW to put in the request to restart the server (which everyone was HOPING would fix the server) now im pretty sure a request was made days ago and the server has been restarted. There are many problems that can happen to a server that a simple reboot will not fix. Someone will have to go and physically diagnose and fix the problem. You cant expect cavedude to call the company and get them to diagnose and fix a server they are hosting for free. So it falls to FNW since he is the only one even close to the area the server is. This man works and has his own life and is clearly very busy. So we have to wait till he gets a break in his very busy life to go and fix a server that he no longer even runs. Is everyone starting to see why PEQ needs a server that atleast someone who is still actually working on the server to be able to fix and work on it. This is not simply a problem calling FNW or calling the company and asking for a restart is going to fix. Im sure this is comething that all the developers of PEQ have thought a lot about to create better stability to PEQ as a whole and this is the solution they came up with. If it was as simple as having FNW say hey, this is cavedude if he calls and ask to reset the server he is speaking for me(FNW) then im sure we wouldnt be having this problem right now. PEQ needs a new server.
stop repeating what has been repeated 20 times already you waste my time with this babble
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Old 08-31-2010, 12:51 AM
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stop repeating what has been repeated 20 times already you waste my time with this babble
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Old 08-31-2010, 03:53 AM
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stop repeating what has been repeated 20 times already you waste my time with this babble
Evidently he IS repeating it for the Very simple reason that it is Obvious that so many posting on this thread are Not reading everything that has been posted here & on Other related threads on the forum.

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Old 08-31-2010, 04:01 AM
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Evidently he IS repeating it for the Very simple reason that it is Obvious that so many posting on this thread are Not reading everything that has been posted here & on Other related threads on the forum.
Nobody reads Darthal posts because he types at a 2nd grade reading level. It's a blob of text with incorrect spacing and no paragraphs.
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Old 08-31-2010, 04:28 AM
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Nobody reads Darthal posts because he types at a 2nd grade reading level.
Now to be perfectly fair... the average American Novelist writes at about a 4th grade reading level... Meaning the average American reads at roughly a 4th grade level...
Even if Darthal did write at a second grade level, big whoop... people would be able to understand him just fine... as opposed to the general Government Document which is written at roughly a 12th grade level.
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Old 08-31-2010, 07:31 AM
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Nobody reads Darthal posts because he types at a 2nd grade reading level. It's a blob of text with incorrect spacing and no paragraphs.
Edited my post for reasons of civility...
Though i would like to catch you in the arena.
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Old 08-31-2010, 06:16 AM
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Evidently he IS repeating it for the Very simple reason that it is Obvious that so many posting on this thread are Not reading everything that has been posted here & on Other related threads on the forum.

/wedge
well lets see, if they arent reading every post thenw hat makes them read that one? lol it needs COLORS!, ITALICIZATION, UNDERLINING, and BOLD type font!
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:01 PM
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Do you guys monitor the PEQ server using any performance monitoring software? Specifically thinking CPU usage, disk i/o, network usage, and memory usage. If you don't already, the second box for the new setup would be a perfect place to put some software (ala Cacti), assuming it will be operating 24/7.

It's important to know where your bottlenecks are so you can spend money efficiently when upgrading.
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:04 PM
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Do you guys monitor the PEQ server using any performance monitoring software? Specifically thinking CPU usage, disk i/o, network usage, and memory usage. If you don't already, the second box for the new setup would be a perfect place to put some software (ala Cacti), assuming it will be operating 24/7.

It's important to know where your bottlenecks are so you can spend money efficiently when upgrading.
On the existing server, nobody but FNW had permissions to do proper performance monitoring. This is yet another thing we want improved.
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:39 PM
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For what it's worth, on the subject of choosing to either restore on a new server from a backup, or wait for the most up to date data, I'm in favor of the latter. This is purely selfish though , as I don't relish camping Phinny for the last piece of the mage epic another few weeks (just finally got the staff the night before the crash, and he is a 3 day spawn). I suspect others are in the same position though. Plus any recent data from the crash might help troubleshoot what the issue is.
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Old 08-31-2010, 12:34 AM
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For what it's worth, on the subject of choosing to either restore on a new server from a backup
Please for the love of god, no more experimental "I wonder if this will work" changes till FNW stops hosting it.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:09 AM
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Please for the love of god, no more experimental "I wonder if this will work" changes till FNW stops hosting it.
What are you talking about? What changes? The server is down, dude. There aren't any changes going on.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:30 PM
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I don't have any attitude, you tried to claim I'm some kind of idiot that doesn't know anything about computers.
Either you do not know much about computers or you leap to conclusions. To wit:

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People were claiming a few posts up that the server was reset but it still doesn't boot which would infer that something was changed to prevent PEQ from loading.
First of all, a system being reset but not coming backup after a crash is not unusual, even without changes to the system. You either do not know this or chose to ignore it as you originally took a possible failed reboot as much more than just an inference of changes, but instead as fact, as shown by:

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Please for the love of god, no more experimental "I wonder if this will work" changes till FNW stops hosting it.
So ultimately, either you do not know enough about computers, or, even with the appropriate knowledge of computers, you are choosing to ignore that and pick a single possible cause and attack the developers over that possibility.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:47 PM
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For what it's worth, on the subject of choosing to either restore on a new server from a backup, or wait for the most up to date data, I'm in favor of the latter. This is purely selfish though , as I don't relish camping Phinny for the last piece of the mage epic another few weeks (just finally got the staff the night before the crash, and he is a 3 day spawn). I suspect others are in the same position though. Plus any recent data from the crash might help troubleshoot what the issue is.
phinny is a 12 hour spawn
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