Gates of Time - New Server Currently in Luclin will go to Planes of Power and Beyond

[Ikubi]

checked out this server last week after being approached by someone on the Project 2002 server via tells, who asked me to come give it a try. My first impressions:

- Character Transfers are a terrible idea, since you can not only transfer NO TRADE items, but any item you want, which leads to people transferring multiple same items on all of their different characters. As a result of that, there is practically no economy, and there was already big controversy about people doctoring up their character export files. Also, it leads to people not experiencing the (mostly broken) content from level 1 to 59.

- Tons of inaccurate data and other problems. Many of which have been reported, and have been shrugged off with reasons like 'working as intended'. They recently announced a new term called 'time touched' which basically is a universal excuse for leaving broken content (spawn times, wrong stats on NPC, wrong drop rates etc) unchanged

- Super low population. The only reason you see the amount of positive testimonials here is that every single person who plays there is shilling for the server here on the eqemu forums

- Front page, bug report templates and many other things are directly ripped off from the server I usually play on (project 2002). Furthermore, they didn't even proof read it or remove the information which is incorrect (compare http://p2002.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3215&p=17331 http://p2002.com/ etc)

- Patch notes appear to be written by a person with the maturity level of an 8 year old - Which goes hand in hand with their questionable 'fixes' to raid content and questionable 'non fixes' to everything that is broken

- The people who run the server were run off their old server by another guild, after having failed to compete and beat simple Luclin encounters. As a result, the content on GoT was immediately nerfed down to a level that makes it beatable by the people who failed it on the other server. Don't expect this server to be at all challenging.

- Server runs on an almost unmodified version of the eqemu codebase, same goes for the database which is riddled with inconsistencies and inaccuracies, as anyone, who has hosted his own server before, knows. When people point out these inaccuracies, or point out non era specific features that completely change the game, those things are being sold as deliberate QoL features. When in reality, most stuff remains unchanged because the developers are either too lazy or too incompetent to fix/change them.

- There are better servers out there for the same content and/or client. Vegarlson's Asylum (https://www.vegarlson-server.org/index.php?topic=165.0), Project 2002 (http://p2002.com/), TAKproject (https://www.takproject.net/), etc, with more skilled and dedicated developers who actually want to recreate original EQ mechanics, and have a population of more than 30 to 50 total players.

Bottom Line: I will check this server out again in a half a year. But the fact that with the server being in its current state, they are already moving from alpha to beta, that is a really bad sign for the future. Wish the people the best of luck but the server (at least in it's current iteration) is not for me.

[mjbcb0717]

[QUOTE=Ikubi;254816]checked out this server last week after being approached by someone on the Project 2002 server via tells, who asked me to come give it a try. My first impressions

They are trying to fish other servers? Tisk tisk.

I played here a few days and learned a few things 90% of the server are all friends from another server and won't really offer help unless you know someone.

Only reason this server has a high pop 30-60 people are because they keep toons logged in to make it seem popular. Found this out after half the server was sitting in pok at guild lobby entry not moving for hours or the whole day. Other then that I found it dead an no one to group with.

Some people are vary rude asked for buffs one day in ooc and was told to *shut it* was trying to find out info on the server as the site does not really specify what this server is about and was told to * play and find out for myself* putting it nicely With this.

Everyone was already 60. 3 days after server came out and had BIS gear what's the point in playing lol the idea of transfers is dumb makes the server pointless.

I don't know why we have servers like this anymore.

[AlmostUnreal32]

Originally Posted by Ikubi

checked out this server last week after being approached by someone on the Project 2002 server via tells, who asked me to come give it a try. My first impressions:

- Character Transfers are a terrible idea, since you can not only transfer NO TRADE items, but any item you want, which leads to people transferring multiple same items on all of their different characters. As a result of that, there is practically no economy, and there was already big controversy about people doctoring up their character export files. Also, it leads to people not experiencing the (mostly broken) content from level 1 to 59.

- Tons of inaccurate data and other problems. Many of which have been reported, and have been shrugged off with reasons like 'working as intended'. They recently announced a new term called 'time touched' which basically is a universal excuse for leaving broken content (spawn times, wrong stats on NPC, wrong drop rates etc) unchanged

- Super low population. The only reason you see the amount of positive testimonials here is that every single person who plays there is shilling for the server here on the eqemu forums

- Front page, bug report templates and many other things are directly ripped off from the server I usually play on (project 2002). Furthermore, they didn't even proof read it or remove the information which is incorrect (compare http://p2002.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3215&p=17331 http://p2002.com/ etc)

- Patch notes appear to be written by a person with the maturity level of an 8 year old - Which goes hand in hand with their questionable 'fixes' to raid content and questionable 'non fixes' to everything that is broken

- The people who run the server were run off their old server by another guild, after having failed to compete and beat simple Luclin encounters. As a result, the content on GoT was immediately nerfed down to a level that makes it beatable by the people who failed it on the other server. Don't expect this server to be at all challenging.

- Server runs on an almost unmodified version of the eqemu codebase, same goes for the database which is riddled with inconsistencies and inaccuracies, as anyone, who has hosted his own server before, knows. When people point out these inaccuracies, or point out non era specific features that completely change the game, those things are being sold as deliberate QoL features. When in reality, most stuff remains unchanged because the developers are either too lazy or too incompetent to fix/change them.

- There are better servers out there for the same content and/or client. Vegarlson's Asylum (https://www.vegarlson-server.org/index.php?topic=165.0), Project 2002 (http://p2002.com/), TAKproject (https://www.takproject.net/), etc, with more skilled and dedicated developers who actually want to recreate original EQ mechanics, and have a population of more than 30 to 50 total players.

Bottom Line: I will check this server out again in a half a year. But the fact that with the server being in its current state, they are already moving from alpha to beta, that is a really bad sign for the future. Wish the people the best of luck but the server (at least in it's current iteration) is not for me.

Im sorry to hear that Lance :(

[Felouire]

Originally Posted by Ikubi

- Character Transfers are a terrible idea, since you can not only transfer NO TRADE items, but any item you want, which leads to people transferring multiple same items on all of their different characters. As a result of that, there is practically no economy, and there was already big controversy about people doctoring up their character export files. Also, it leads to people not experiencing the (mostly broken) content from level 1 to 59.

I can definitely respect your opinon on this. Thank you!

Originally Posted by Ikubi

- Tons of inaccurate data and other problems. Many of which have been reported, and have been shrugged off with reasons like 'working as intended'. They recently announced a new term called 'time touched' which basically is a universal excuse for leaving broken content (spawn times, wrong stats on NPC, wrong drop rates etc) unchanged

Many have been reported? I think our bug forums are maybe a page or two long and quests have zero reported. Remember, this is a brand new server. There WILL be bugs and there WILL be problems. Yes, there have been situations that have been adressed as QOL and working which include tradeskill window working as originally intended instead of point and click like p2002 but thats what the server wants. I think its unfair to tell a brand new server it has a ton of inaccurate data and other problems and personally feels like an attack rather than criticism.

Originally Posted by Ikubi

- Super low population. The only reason you see the amount of positive testimonials here is that every single person who plays there is shilling for the server here on the eqemu forums

Super new server and Pretty sure every server does this and its encouraged....by every server.

Originally Posted by Ikubi

- Front page, bug report templates and many other things are directly ripped off from the server I usually play on (project 2002). Furthermore, they didn't even proof read it or remove the information which is incorrect (compare http://p2002.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3215&p=17331 http://p2002.com/ etc)

Sure, P2002 had a great format for their bug reports and their front page for quick info. I think the team did a great job to create a quick page to say, "Hey! This is what this is! Come play!" and we all applaud them for their work on creating a great template for bug reports. We wanted to continue this great work with our server and seeing as we are coming from a similar fomat not only server atmosphere but server info i wouldnt see why this would be a surprise at all. As far as it not being proof read and having inaccurate info with no examples being given i again feel like this is more an attack than criticism.

Originally Posted by Ikubi

- Patch notes appear to be written by a person with the maturity level of an 8 year old

i again feel like this is more an attack than criticism.

Originally Posted by Ikubi

Which goes hand in hand with their questionable 'fixes' to raid content and questionable 'non fixes' to everything that is broken

Give me an example please and submit a bug report!

Originally Posted by Ikubi

- The people who run the server were run off their old server by another guild, after having failed to compete and beat simple Luclin encounters. As a result, the content on GoT was immediately nerfed down to a level that makes it beatable by the people who failed it on the other server. Don't expect this server to be at all challenging.

The people and guild frankly who were "run off" had issues with the current establishment and decided we wanted to create a different atmosphere server. Did we create a big firestorm leaving the server? No, we actually communicated this with GM's consistently and there has been a zero tolerance policy on our server that we will not be "server bashing" I hope you respect that and continue this on your own posts and server.

Originally Posted by Ikubi

- Server runs on an almost unmodified version of the eqemu codebase, same goes for the database which is riddled with inconsistencies and inaccuracies, as anyone, who has hosted his own server before, knows. When people point out these inaccuracies, or point out non era specific features that completely change the game, those things are being sold as deliberate QoL features. When in reality, most stuff remains unchanged because the developers are either too lazy or too incompetent to fix/change them.

Again, NEW server man. yes most of its unmodified because....its new. To also go as far as saying the developers are too lazy or incompetant feels AGAIN! like an attack rather than criticism.

Originally Posted by Ikubi

- There are better servers out there for the same content and/or client. Vegarlson's Asylum (https://www.vegarlson-server.org/index.php?topic=165.0), Project 2002 (http://p2002.com/), TAKproject (https://www.takproject.net/), etc, with more skilled and dedicated developers who actually want to recreate original EQ mechanics, and have a population of more than 30 to 50 total players.

There are absolutely better servers. We are new developers and want to create a fantastic community. I feel like you are constantly attacking the server and are looking to place blame or create a firestorm.

Originally Posted by Ikubi

Bottom Line: I will check this server out again in a half a year. But the fact that with the server being in its current state, they are already moving from alpha to beta, that is a really bad sign for the future. Wish the people the best of luck but the server (at least in it's current iteration) is not for me.

Bottom Line: I hope you do check us out again in 6 months but the fact that you are judging a server on its current state when its brand new and consistently attacking its staff as stated in almost ALL of your points is a new low. I wish you the best of luck with your server choice and hope we can continue are strive for a great server!

[zeonick]

So, I am not involved with the development of the server in anyway, but I did transfer over from p02 with the guild Noble Heros.

Yes, the community is 95% made up of those who transferred from p02, so you will see a lot of AAing/raiding at level 60. That's just the reality right now. That doesn't mean we won't be welcoming and helpful to new players. In fact, please feel free to send me a message if you need help with ANYTHING! I love helping new players.

Also, people have mentioned nerfed content. Raid content here is fully unnerfed and requires a raid force (someone mentioned raiding as a trio in cloth, this is pure slander, that person has never raided here). Some encounters are currently needing work, but this server is new, lots of things need a little work(and will be fixed promptly).

I don't think any of the posts on here are trying to be misleading - the server does have a vibrant community, because it is primarily populated by our guild, which does have a great community! If you are on the "outside looking in" you may not see that, so I for one will be doing my best to be inclusive and helpful to new players, and I know my guild mates share that sentiment.

I could go on and on addressing the points people have brought up, but I wont. Come check the server out if you are at all interested, but know you will see high level characters. This isn't a "fresh launch" server like Agnarr or anything. Having said that, please feel free to reach out to me if you would like assistance starting out!

EDIT: First post, wooo! Haven't posted here since making my p99 character years and years ago, but feel free to check me out on p02/GoT forums to see that I am active in my community.
EDIT2: oops, this wasn't the account I made my p99 characters on. Oh well

[TheRealTombs]

Iance (Ikubi) do not post here if all you are going to do is lie and attack people. I'm not sure why you are so upset about us (Noble Heroes) leaving P02 to come to a new server but you are clearly personally hurt by it. I would argue you point by point like Felouire did but it is pointless because I know people like you, and people like you are always right.

[Vack]

Thanks to all the people who are trying the server. We know we aren't for everybody and we're quite okay with that. We do allow three boxing's but don't allow mq.

and with the number of responses we have gotten it seems we may have struck a chord with a few people. so we welcome you to try now or in 6 months or in two years and we look forward to having fun with you on our server.

And if you're not going to play here that's okay too there are lots of great servers for you to play on. And we absolutely wish you the very best.