C++

[Trumpcard]

I wont deny that its a junky language, it was made to be a high level language, closer to english, but point was it can't really be considered obsolete as cobol programmers are still in demand..

Pascal/ADA on the other hand, though I hear a few places are still using ADA...

[JP]

hehe search on google for 'cobol' and Dijkstra....

Actually, Pascal is a pretty cool language these days. When I started learning to program we learnt FORTRAN and USCD Pascal. Pascal at that time had no standard input or standard output, you had to do all IO on Punched cards, paper tape and mag tape. This was quite hard to work with.

You'd feed the macchine a stqack of cards, and eventually pick up a paper tape from Ops. You'd take this and feed it through a Teletype Terminal which would print it in 7 bit ascii on 128 column fan fold paper.

In the '80's Borland relaesed Turbo Pascal, which could be used for real programms. Eventually Borland Pascal forked into 2 trees, Borland Pascal and Object Pascal. Object Pascal became Delphi.

Interestingly, the Borland C++ compiler is written in Borland Pascal, and it's the fastet C++ compiler I've seen.

Thus endeth the lesson for today.

[JP]

Oh, I forgot to mention, that book is crap. It is more a book on 'C with classes' . I'd strongly suggest you buy a book by Kelly and Pohl. Pohl in the madman who wrote the C Standard Library, and was instrumental in writing the specs for the STL.

Seiously, that book you've got will fill your mind with stuff you'll have to unlearn if you want to do any serious coding.

[Q-Dog]

Mortamer..

I read Teach yourself C++ in 21 days, and one of the chapters has some bugs in it.. but that isn't important. What is important is that the book is not for beginners, and that is probably why you aren't getting a good grasp. I Would like to suggest "Beginning C++" (for pure console) or "Beginning VC++ 6" (console mostly, but dives into mfc near the end) by Ivor Horton. It is the most structured and best laid out book I have ever read on programming, It explains everything to you in great detail and even explains to you where and why you would use different things that you otherwise wouldn't know.

Hope that helps you.

P.S. I thought EQ was coded in QBasic .

[Mortamer]

Ok, I'll look for Beginning C++. However I can't get it right away, so should I continue with reading Teach Yourself C++ in 21 days? Or would it be bad to read it, if I would just have to unlearn it anyway?

[a_Guest03]

I read the 21 days one, then took a class on it later. Do the exercises - you will probably be fine. I had to stop reading it because of time constraints.

[Mortamer]

Ok, will do.

Even if you turn to another book, keep reading the 'in 21 days' one, it'll still teach you alot, if you grasp that, the beginning c++ books will teach you the more basic commands, let's just say you'll learn it backwards but still learn it.