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08-22-2003, 09:14 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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just a quick question.... what ever happened to hogie? where did he go? and did that have anything to do with the domain change of eqemu?
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08-23-2003, 12:45 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 34
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its not a bot, he is lying obviously. But does the position he held allow him to act that way? But in my experience IRC is HORRIBLE! Its the worst program in the world becuase its full of horrilbe noobs, and all they want to do is cause everyone grief. I prefer forums, cuz you can ignore people easier.
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08-23-2003, 01:20 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 67
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Quote:
But in my experience IRC is HORRIBLE! Its the worst program in the world becuase its full of horrilbe noobs, and all they want to do is cause everyone grief. I prefer forums, cuz you can ignore people easier.
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Obviously, this is coming FROM a "horrilbe noob". mIRC can be very fun, useful, and yes, even helpful at times (for finding out information on the loginserver, for instance)! As to ignoring people...theres a simple command called /ignore <name>.....Try it sometime!
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08-23-2003, 05:52 AM
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Dragon
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: GI, NE
Posts: 924
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I went to the channel once a long time ago, never went back. I can tell it hasn't changed, possibly has gotten worse. If someone thats new to eqemu joins, I recommend using the forum ONLY, unless you want to risk being made fun of in IRC because you are new and ask a so called "dumb" question.
Just remember (to the people in IRC), you was once new also.
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08-23-2003, 08:37 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 3
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amen
it's a pity that in a lot of cases the driving forces behind the project have the least patience and tolerance for those who wish to understand it a little better, isn't it? 
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08-24-2003, 06:54 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 18
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In IRCs defense, it's not ALL bad, i've been helped in there before....but for the most part just ignored....So i agree, if your new to EQEmu, Stick with the Forums or send me an email at OmegaGoat@hotmail.com and i'll see if i can help you out, i used to play EQEmu A LOT a few months ago and just starting again (i may still have a few bits of info up my sleeve)
Remember OmegaGoat@Hotmail.com
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08-25-2003, 04:40 PM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 181
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I'm staying away from IRC mostly, I'd say that Wes and Trumpcard are the only mature OPs there anyway, and the last time I checked they are the most infrequent chatters heh.
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08-25-2003, 07:24 PM
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Administrator
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 708
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on *:text:*f*ck*:#: {
if ($nick !isop $chan) {
kick $nick $chan Swear Word Detected
}
}
Thats just a quick example of how a script can avoid ops.
(Forum Filter wont let me say f word, so it says f*ck in the code instead)
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08-26-2003, 07:02 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,658
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The thing that most people dont understand about irc, is that just because you see people there DOESNT MEAN THEY ARE THERE. some people there have an idle time in days.
Just because the devs are there, DOES NOT mean we are there to help you.
Dumb Ops/rude people, if you have a problem with somone (like kami) send a PM to one of the irc ops (list of ops to follow).
Also after getting asked the same question 7000000000 times that is covered in the forums we do tend to get a little bitchy.
Irc is a great tool if used right, you come in asking " Can somone tell me why the pather wont work " expect to be flamed.
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08-26-2003, 09:51 AM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: La Mesa, CA
Posts: 125
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Amen.
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08-26-2003, 12:17 PM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 452
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You're right , irc is an excellent tool , it's just too bad the majority of the OPs , 1/2 OPs , and helpers (which comprise usually about 1/2 of the population of the channel now) in eqemu irc see it as thier personal little tool to bash then boot people that may actually have something to contribute.
And it's funny how they all seem to think it's funny until one of them does something to totally screw things up , then they De-OP the one that was doing exactly the same stuff as the rest , and blame it ALL on them.
I for one , have not EVER gone into irc chat and asked "why doesn't the pather work?" .
That makes absolutely no sense , since I'm the only person I know of to be even attempting to create an entire moving DB, I must know that pathing IS in fact working.
BUT........
When I go into irc to ask questions about certain aspects of the pathing that don't work , don't work correctly , I get nothing but excuses , or a rash of crap from a bunch of newbies that haven't even contibuted to the project , yet they have OP or 1/2OP status in irc.
SO................
The few simple requests I have made over the last few months have gone unanswered/ignored , or I have been pitched crap when making an appearance in irc to make requests or ask questions.
If thats the way the devs , OPs want to treat contributors , I don't want to be one anymore.
I actually have better things to do with my time , than to try to work without the support of the people that write the program helping fix the little problems that NEED to be fixed to make this work correctly.
Or waste my time making simple requests that will go unanswered for months.
The devs , OPs can make all the excuses they want , but those of us that have been around for a long time , know how things are in irc , and if thats being helpful , I'd suggest figuring things out for yourself , because eqemu irc is just a waste of time.
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