The dream of Classic EQ - and why it doesn't work.

ok dumb ass terms


You are the only person who thinks what you think, everyone else says the the reverse is true. Also you have not offered one piece of real evidence to support your "feelings".


You have every right to feel the way you do but bairly anyone agrees with you and you are trying to MAKE everyone agree with you, even after being offered proof.


I have seen thousands of servers come and go and the servers that try to be like live ( yes the old school servers too ) fail 100% of the time. They get people that say "this will be fun" "I will play on that server" but that lasts weeks if even that long, people dont want live they want fast leveling uber items ect. The ONLY "legit" servers to last long are the ones with original content. This is a FACT not a feeling, the proof is right at the login server for you to see.

[Snootay]

Originally Posted by bbum

that was my point. i live in america, i dont know the language by the book like you.

He doesn't speak English better than you because you're a native speaker(THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MY BRAIN JUST FLEW OUT OF MY NOSTRIL AND RAN AWAY TO HIDE IN THE CORNER WOAH LOOK AT THE PRETTY COLORS), he speaks English better than you because he's not a fucking retard.

I'm an American and speak better English than Wiz! He's a dumb Swede. Consequently, I speak Swedish better than him too. Did you know, in Sweden, they don't even have SWEDISH FISH!? The horror.

[bbum]

do i really need to explain why pre kunark eq is better than wr lol, and then do i hve to explain why i would rather play a classic remake then wr :

I'm an American and speak better English than Wiz!

ya, but ur gehy lol, if i cared what wiz was talking about, id have to google every other word to figure out what hes saying, every person who speaks enlgish as there second language i meet on irc or whatever's english is like that

I see no logical fallacy here. You did use unbased promotion.

unbased promotion?? wth, and the logical fallacy is you quote the very last part, and make it sound llike i said a classic server is the best in the world.[/quote]

do i really need to explain why pre kunark eq is better than wr lol, and then do i hve to explain why i would rather play a classic remake then wr

There you go again on your personal crusade against WR, I thought it was a discussion about a clasic server?

Personaly I dont like WR and will never ever play on it, why you ask? same reason as many, it takes too long to LV and i dont want a grind.

This is the way MOST people who would play an emulator feel.

here let me quote my last post since you ignored it.

I have seen thousands of servers come and go and the servers that try to be like live ( yes the old school servers too ) fail 100% of the time. They get people that say "this will be fun" "I will play on that server" but that lasts weeks if even that long, people dont want live they want fast leveling uber items ect. The ONLY "legit" servers to last long are the ones with original content. This is a FACT not a feeling, the proof is right at the login server for you to see.

and you going off about Wiz's english gave me a realy good laugh, it the opisit ( once again ) of what your saying. People who learn english as a second language have a hard time understanding people who have used it there whole life. I will give you an example my human resorces professor gave in class.

cap1    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (kp)
n. 
A usually soft and close-fitting head covering, either having no brim or with a visor. 

A special head covering worn to indicate rank, occupation, or membership in a particular group: a cardinal's cap; a sailor's cap. 
An academic mortarboard. Used especially in the phrase cap and gown. 

A protective cover or seal, especially one that closes off an end or a tip: a bottle cap; a 35-millimeter lens cap. 
A crown for covering or sealing a tooth. 
A tread for a worn pneumatic tire. 
A fitted covering used to seal a well or large pipe. 
Chiefly Southern U.S. See eye. 
A summit or top, as of a mountain. 
An upper limit; a ceiling: placed a cap on mortgage rates. 
Architecture. The capital of a column. 
Botany. 
The top part, or pileus, of a mushroom. 
A calyptra. 

A percussion cap. 
A small explosive charge enclosed in paper for use in a toy gun. 
Any of several sizes of writing paper, such as foolscap. 
Sports. An appearance by a player in an international soccer game, traditionally rewarded with a hat.

Explain how "im gonna pop a cap in your arse" fits into any of the definitions for "cap"?

People from the USA understand what is mean but people from other countrys dont. I can give you the book name, chapter ect if you would like to educate yourself instead of making stuff up to attempt to bash people with.

[bbum]

thats what i was sayin, they have trouble understanding us

i still think a classic remake would be the ubah rule btw lol

[Snootay]

Originally Posted by bbum

thats what i was sayin, they have trouble understanding us

They have trouble understanding you, not us. I've known Wiz for about two years now and have never had any trouble understanding each other's English.

The reason people may seem to have trouble understanding your mastery of the English language is because you butcher it like Uncle Bubba butchers anal virginity.

[bbum]

lol

[Memener]

LOL my head hurts....

Although, I do have to agree with wiz. I played EQlive for 3 1/2 years was fun. I got 3 lvl 60s. Join EQEMu and played on there servers for 2 days and never went back to live... Its gets old... Its like Unreal in Co-op mod...

Anyway i am noob what do i dont.... I am just a retard.....

[Muuss]

I played for 3+ years on live, starting pre-kunark, lead 4 chars up to 60 and epic, and enough of them up to 50+ to fill 2 full accounts. I stopped when that damn lvl 65 appeared and finished to ruin all my eqlive fun. Then, I then took a deep breath, and stopped to play till i made a char on WR, I played there for a lil bit more than 6 monthes, and partially rediscovered the fun i had when i was a young human wizzy from Morell Thule.

Even if i rarely agreed with Wiz when we were having issues on WR together, i do have to say here that i totally follow his opinion about the good old worlds, it's just not possible anymore when you have such a background as mine, or his.
In fact, i understood this when velious was released. At that time, a pretty important number of new players joined Morell Thule and started their Eq life, it was yet different to what we, old peeps, known. They wanted all immediately, 90% or more rezz for their lvl 15 war, ports to make WC to Nro, they wanted to access to guild banks, or follow the raids at lvl 30... just because they were seeing lvl 60 players everywhere, carrying epic weaps, etc ...

What killed the 'good old days' is the quality of the pre-velious world, that lead EQ to create more and more expansions, each of them giving more and more power to the players and ruining the previous one. Nah, i really don't see how an experimented player could enjoy spending 10 days to make lvl 1->40, dieing 3 times or more a day, or staying LFG for hours if they know that the server contains high end stuff that will turn to shit what they did for the previous 10 days. The fun of EQ was to discover and learn the world. High end game, certainly much more complex, techically was the only way SoE found to keep their money maker alive. Honestly, expansions past Kunark gave absolutely nothing new, or better, to the game, but just kept players addicted instead of renewing them in a more 'static' world.

This remains obviously a personal point a view, and i do understand that some players like to be tank14 or chain_cleric17, but from my personal experience, only a few of those i know were playing pre_kunark.

[bbum]

even kunark messed up pretty bad, i mean, i remember +15 hp gear being uber, then all the sudden i have my ragebringer with +100 hp, and then by the time velious came out +50 hp gear was like the same price, and there was no reason for plane raids when velious came out
, cause the drops and xp were so ubar

although, i have to say velious is when i really started playing hardcore and had my fondest memories

Although, I do have to agree with wiz. I played EQlive for 3 1/2 years was fun. I got 3 lvl 60s. Join EQEMu and played on there servers for 2 days and never went back to live... Its gets old... Its like Unreal in Co-op mod...

yeah, well who would want to go back to that pos live lol.

[Wiz]

unbased promotion?? wth, and the logical fallacy is you quote the very last part, and make it sound llike i said a classic server is the best in the world.

Okay, first of all, there is no logical fallacy or contradiction to suggestive and selective quoting, although I didn't even do that, it's just a shady argumentative tactic. It also has nothing to do with wheter a classic server is better or not, or your bitter little spouts about WR. I invite you to quote the exact passage where I did this.

[relorm500]

*cry* Wiz...you are GOD of EMU....do you hear me.....the EQEMu god = Wiz.

[bbum]

why? all he said was

1. allakazam has spoiled all content

2. pre-kunark didnt have enuf content

3. pre-kunark was to hard for pussys

i could of told you that and became eq emu king, oh wll to late now =(

[RexChaos]

Originally Posted by bbum

why? all he said was

1. allakazam has spoiled all content

2. pre-kunark didnt have enuf content

3. pre-kunark was to hard for pussys

i could of told you that and became eq emu king, oh wll to late now =(

No that's not why anyone would think Wiz was king/god of EQEmu. It's because he has PRODUCED something. When you get around to making something and not just talking about it, people may regard you in the same way. That's all.

[napalmsquirrel]

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http://www.healthyplace.com/communit...ism/index.html

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