New progression server - Gnomish Proving Grounds

[gnode]

He is correct.

Inny is down. Level cap is now 51. Once CT is dead it will go to 52. I am going to require a good effort attempt on sky before Kunark is released. Many of us have all of our old world portions of epic complete and are itching to go to Kunark.

We also had our all time high of 30 people online at once during that inny raid. There was some lag so I have quadrupled our upload bandwidth. We should be able easily support ~75 players at once now.



Recap:
Ringmail/cloth has minor stats and drops off skeletons to help newbies.

Twice as much loot drops per kill, so gearing up is a lot quicker.

Good exp bonus and group exp bonus (2boxing encouraged). I would say we are 1-2 weeks out from Kunark. You would have plenty of time to get 50 before kunark.

Old items drop such as jboots off Drelzna. Manastone drops but is very rare.

Gods currently have their original loot, including items removed from the game.

Mayong is in the game with all custom loot in line for the era.

Many of us are in full hate gear (done more hate than fear, tons of war/clerics). Anyone who joins will get twinked fast due to lack of competition and double drop rates.

Right now we are still tank heavy. We need DPS DPS DPS. Severe lack of necros. We could use more rogues/monks/rangers/mages/wizards/necros and also need a good enc or two.

[yarmond1]

I have started a Mage but I am pretty casual. Really enjoying myself on your server. Just got murdered by a Griffin in east commons, lol.

[BlackDisco]

You know a forum would kinda help. Apparently the site for the custom files was down for a bit or something and people had to email each other them or something.

Loving this server, by the way. Helping me cope with the loss of EQC. Tried playing on PEQ but it got very boring with later expansions, even with infinite AA's. Anywho, thanks for havin this all set up, Tiny.

--Hellhammer, Emperor, Mayhem

[xexllama]

Nazi Proving Grounds! Come play but ONLY IF you like to be forced to raid with every single person who logs in, oh and have the guild name "OMGWTFBBQSAUCE".

I formed my own guild, after helping the server extensively on raids and decided to lead my own. The very first raid where myself and my guildies conquered Venril Sathir half my equipment is removed. The other GM on the server idlely sits by telling me "He doesn't care" and then enjoys loot. Oh I might add loot we couldn't use was dispersed among people on the server! What a travisty to have a raid on the server that doesn't include every single person! Hey maybe I'm over-reacting. Well:



So play here in the lovely yester year of the Nazi regime, or don't unless you like bringing any and every person on with you everywhere!!

<3

Toodles!

[Secrets]

Originally Posted by xexllama

Nazi Proving Grounds! Come play but ONLY IF you like to be forced to raid with every single person who logs in, oh and have the guild name "OMGWTFBBQSAUCE".

I formed my own guild, after helping the server extensively on raids and decided to lead my own. The very first raid where myself and my guildies conquered Venril Sathir half my equipment is removed. The other GM on the server idlely sits by telling me "He doesn't care" and then enjoys loot. Oh I might add loot we couldn't use was dispersed among people on the server! What a travisty to have a raid on the server that doesn't include every single person! Hey maybe I'm over-reacting. Well:

So play here in the lovely yester year of the Nazi regime, or don't unless you like bringing any and every person on with you everywhere!!

<3

Toodles!

Now, while I couldn't give a damn about this server, or the players on it, or the server OPs, I do have to say that server ops do have 100% control of you. You broke his server's rule (even if it was "nazish" in your opinion, which in itself is a childish way to retort comparing a server to genocide.) and he did what he deemed was necessary. When you log on to a server, you forfeit all control of your rights and only have the rights they give you; thus, if a server has a rule where admins can knock you back with AvatarKnockback any time they want, while stupid, the rule still gets enforced as you are not the server op. It's just that simple.

The only thing I see happening past this post is a bunch of flaming, pointing fingers, and blatant destruction of a thread. So, can we continue this civilized before a mod has to intervene?

Pleeaaaasseeee?

[xexllama]

Sure, rules have to be adhered too but they should be stated clearly. Hey no big deal I left, but I have as much right to post my opinions as he has to enforce what I deem ridiculous rules.

Also, comparing server control to Nazism OBVIOUSLY is a way to convey stringent rules, but hey lets make everything in life politically correct. Your name is secrets, why not keep your thoughts that way then?

[KingMort]

I had people like that flame me when I first started out as well..

Hang in there man ... If you love what you do then no one can tell you any different

King

[Secrets]

Originally Posted by xexllama

Sure, rules have to be adhered too but they should be stated clearly. Hey no big deal I left, but I have as much right to post my opinions as he has to enforce what I deem ridiculous rules.

Also, comparing server control to Nazism OBVIOUSLY is a way to convey stringent rules, but hey lets make everything in life politically correct. Your name is secrets, why not keep your thoughts that way then?

Sounds like you should take a little bit of your own advice and keep to yourself. Someone got owned on a game, and now they are whining on a messageboard. I don't know what's more pathetic, your childish retorts against someone who you broke rules on their property with, or that.

[xexllama]

Childish retorts seems to be a favorite statement of yours eh?

3rd times the charm lay it on me!

[Secrets]

Originally Posted by xexllama

Childish retorts seems to be a favorite statement of yours eh?

3rd times the charm lay it on me!

Childish retorts. Happy?

Maybe if your sadistic brain intent on destroying communities would focus on facts, instead of focusing on your own opinions, you'd see what I meant.

You are as powerless as anyone else is on a server. Yet, you don't get that, and when I try and make you see, you flame me back.

I don't keep to myself for one reason: I keep people in place, mainly those who are blind to common sense.

Chances are one of the following happened:
1) Rules were stated clearly, and you ignored them.
2) You broke a rule after being warned that you did not follow a rule, and proceeded anyway.
3) A combination of 1 & 2.

It happens every time... there's always a backstory. A picture does not always speak a thousand words; in your case, it spoke 30 at most, which is definately not the whole story.

Why did I decide this server's post to defend the topic creator? Because it's simple, I am sick and tired of arrogant EQEmu players asserting themselves to higher quality of service. Not everyone eats, drinks, sleeps, bathes, and dreams of EQEmu here. Nor do half the players respect rules put out for them.

If we were to have a world without rules, there would be total anarchy. The same applies to a server. If it had no rules, there would be people with MQ2 warping and ghostkilling around, kill stealing, training, etc. (these are just examples I put forth.)

And yes, I do think it is dumb you got gear removed. But your fault for not knowing the rules, regardless if you were told them or not. Judging from that picture, the server admin always said to include people, so you either didn't get the memo or you're just ignoring his rules, and were punished as such, and again, are complaining.

I certainly wouldn't remove gear (as that's just a bit harsh) but I would punish rule-breakers, which this guy did.

And I believe he was justified in his decision.

None of this matters since you're just going to say a one liner of how I should stay out of this, but ah well, that's how it goes. People are so blind.

[xexllama]

Thanks,

I was never told everyone in the server had to be involved until the day my gear was stripped and I was delv'd.

I was threatened by his guild members when I told them they couldn't come, which only reinforced the fact I wouldn't bring them.

I absolutely understand the concept his server his rules, as long as he displays them and well, he should have handled it differently. I wrote him a PM and explained the entire situation and after that email he simply deleted my characters claiming to avoid drama.

Aren't you over-reacting a tad? I mean Sadistic? that's entirely harsh; I didn't stalk him and key his car! I posted a screenshot ;p, hell you don't even know me. In fact you came on here, flamed me and then scolded me for being childish for flaming? Quite the confusing situation!

Now I realize you view yourself as this omnipotent unappreciated intellectual. Try and wrap your mind around this...I played on a server to relax and I avoid new players as much as possible as its frustrating explaining things to them. So after helping and running a few raids for newer players I decided to branch out, and was punished for it. The reason for my punishment only became clear AFTER the apparently infraction. So I PM'd him, the above happened, so I made this post. Then as I mentioned earlier; you decided to bless me with your wisdom, I mean before I thought rules were just the worlds way of ruining my good time. My eyes can now truly understand the world around me after such incredible insight...I mean no rules would be anarchy...now the movie madmax makes sense finally!!!

I'm done, you admitted the only reason you posted in this thread was to flame, so why continue it on? Sorry for the Hijacking everyone but I stand by my first post and disagree with forced rules that aren't stated. No where in message of the day or any of these posts does it state that.

So be forewarned, you will be punished for not complying with unspoken rules.

<3

Toodles

[Secrets]

Originally Posted by xexllama

Thanks,

I was never told everyone in the server had to be involved until the day my gear was stripped and I was delv'd.

I was threatened by his guild members when I told them they couldn't come, which only reinforced the fact I wouldn't bring them.

I absolutely understand the concept his server his rules, as long as he displays them and well, he should have handled it differently. I wrote him a PM and explained the entire situation and after that email he simply deleted my characters claiming to avoid drama.

Aren't you over-reacting a tad? I mean Sadistic? that's entirely harsh; I didn't stalk him and key his car! I posted a screenshot ;p, hell you don't even know me. In fact you came on here, flamed me and then scolded me for being childish for flaming? Quite the confusing situation!

Now I realize you view yourself as this omnipotent unappreciated intellectual. Try and wrap your mind around this...I played on a server to relax and I avoid new players as much as possible as its frustrating explaining things to them. So after helping and running a few raids for newer players I decided to branch out, and was punished for it. The reason for my punishment only became clear AFTER the apparently infraction. So I PM'd him, the above happened, so I made this post. Then as I mentioned earlier; you decided to bless me with your wisdom, I mean before I thought rules were just the worlds way of ruining my good time. My eyes can now truly understand the world around me after such incredible insight...I mean no rules would be anarchy...now the movie madmax makes sense finally!!!

I'm done, you admitted the only reason you posted in this thread was to flame, so why continue it on? Sorry for the Hijacking everyone but I stand by my first post and disagree with forced rules that aren't stated. No where in message of the day or any of these posts does it state that.

So be forewarned, you will be punished for not complying with unspoken rules.

<3

Toodles

Ok, maybe I was a bit harsh on you. I apologize. I do not mean to insult your integrity, or cause any mental anguish as a result of posting.
I'm actually kind of a nice person, but just extremely raged. I can admit that :P

But just remember that stuff like this should stay in PMs, rather than posted in their advertisement thread.
Can we agree on that?

[xexllama]

Sure but I did pm him and in response he abruptly deleted my toons.

So I posted here.

<3

[gnode]

I banned him because he was extremely rude in ooc ("Fuck this server, fuck Tiny (me)" etc) and trained people. His friend also admitted they were duping. So if you want a first class citizen on your server, by all means invite this guy.

This was after I punished him for violating the rules.

If any members of his now disbanded guild wish to remain and play nice, they are more than welcome to. They can also join the main guild if they wish or start a new one that will adhere to the play nice rule.

The reality is there is only so much bandwidth available, so I want the server to be cohesive. If that means pruning a few bad apples, so be it. Call me Stalin.


To be clear: His characters were deleted because he trained people and trash talked in OOC, after I did the original punishment.

[gnode]

Some logs of interest....

[Sat Oct 18 17:53:43 2008] Kasilis says out of character, 'Who went to Tiny on me Oneeye?'
[Sat Oct 18 17:54:01 2008] Kasilis says out of character, 'FOR not including NON GUILDIES on a run I wanted to do, AND I gave away 1 epic piece, 1 DW legs and 1 SS legs!!!'
[Sat Oct 18 17:54:28 2008] Oneeye says out of character, 'drop it man accusing someone with evidence isnt the way'
[Sat Oct 18 17:54:31 2008] Kasilis says out of character, 'I MEAN WHAT THE FUCK? SHOULD I only play when you guys are able to and adhere to your every fucking whim?'
[Sat Oct 18 17:54:33 2008] Oneeye says out of character, 'without'
[Sat Oct 18 17:55:07 2008] Kasilis says out of character, 'Hey oneeye, your a fucking retard, your penis is small, and your the worse 2boxer I've ever seen in my entire life. But you seemed like a nice guy, but then you find out you can't do VS (and you missed out on dw legs) so you go crying to tiny and massage his cock so he delvs me and fucks with my toons?'
[Sat Oct 18 17:55:10 2008] Kasilis says out of character, 'Fuck you'
[Sat Oct 18 17:55:26 2008] Kasilis says out of character, 'Fuck this server.'
[Sat Oct 18 17:56:03 2008] Vicadin says out of character, 'hey oneeye i told ya so man'
[Sat Oct 18 17:59:44 2008] Dobar says out of character, 'Can I have your stuff?'
[Sat Oct 18 18:02:09 2008] Siladen says out of character, 'lol oneeye got pwnt'
[Sat Oct 18 18:02:18 2008] Oneeye says out of character, 'i did? cool'
[Sat Oct 18 18:05:16 2008] Siladen says out of character, 'so what happened '
[Sat Oct 18 18:05:18 2008] Siladen says out of character, 'i never got the story'
[Sat Oct 18 18:25:36 2008] Siladen says out of character, 'lol!'
[Sat Oct 18 18:25:42 2008] Oneeye says out of character, 'cool'
[Sat Oct 18 18:25:57 2008] Siladen says out of character, 'it was pretty cool actually you got one rounded lol'
[Sat Oct 18 18:27:10 2008] Siladen says out of character, 'tell tiny about that btw '
[Sat Oct 18 18:27:10 2008] Sexmachine says out of character, 'i love how i ask siladen.. you guys gonna train me? Siladen replies "nah, later tonight we doing something, u see''
[Sat Oct 18 18:27:19 2008] Sexmachine says out of character, 'you want me to?'
[Sat Oct 18 18:27:24 2008] Kasilis says out of character, 'Whos ton?'
[Sat Oct 18 18:27:34 2008] Kasilis says out of character, 'Sila weights a ton? and there was no train, we wiped'
[Sat Oct 18 18:27:41 2008] Sexmachine says out of character, 'ah yeah'
[Sat Oct 18 18:27:44 2008] Sexmachine says out of character, 'thats right'
[Sat Oct 18 18:27:48 2008] Piddly says out of character, 'thx for the train i luv dieing'
[Sat Oct 18 18:27:50 2008] Kasilis says out of character, 'we were just downstairs from you...must have aggroed'
[Sat Oct 18 18:56:50 2008] Kasilis says out of character, 'hows chardok oneeye?'
[Sat Oct 18 18:56:58 2008] Kasilis says out of character, 'should watch aggro range there'




This part was fun to watch.... he tried venril sathir again by himself and wiped:
[Sat Oct 18 19:20:49 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:30:48 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:31:12 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:31:27 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:31:30 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:31:48 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:32:19 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:32:22 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:32:46 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:33:04 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:33:25 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:33:32 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:34:02 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:34:35 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:35:06 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:35:45 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:35:51 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:35:51 2008] Venril Sathir says,'You will not evade me, Toodles!'
[Sat Oct 18 19:36:03 2008] Venril Sathir says,'You will not evade me, Toodles!'
[Sat Oct 18 19:36:03 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:36:06 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:36:11 2008] Venril Sathir says,'You will not evade me, Rekepit!'
[Sat Oct 18 19:36:21 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 19:36:21 2008] Venril Sathir says,'You will not evade me, Pookie!'
[Sat Oct 18 19:36:33 2008] Venril Sathir says,'You will not evade me, Trino!'
[Sat Oct 18 19:36:36 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 20:01:17 2008] Venril Sathir says,'You will not evade me, Ekac!'
[Sat Oct 18 20:01:33 2008] Venril Sathir goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Oct 18 20:01:40 2008] Venril Sathir says,'You will not evade me, Toodles!'



[Sat Oct 18 23:37:35 2008] You told Sydd, 'punishment'
[Sat Oct 18 23:37:40 2008] Sydd tells you, 'for not letting oneeye on the raid?'
[Sat Oct 18 23:38:00 2008] You told Sydd, 'and being an asshole. i laid out the rules extremely clearly: All raids are to be inclusive of anyone who wants to go'
[Sat Oct 18 23:39:57 2008] Sydd tells you, 'in all fairness tho he did give raja the DW legs from vs, he wanted to do it as a guild'
[Sat Oct 18 23:40:06 2008] You told Sydd, 'i deleted ALL the loot that dropped'
[Sat Oct 18 23:40:24 2008] Sydd tells you, 'thats ujst stupid lol'
[Sat Oct 18 23:40:28 2008] You told Sydd, 'no its not'
[Sat Oct 18 23:40:36 2008] You told Sydd, 'the point is that people need to be polite and inclusive'
[Sat Oct 18 23:41:28 2008] You told Sydd, 'anyway, its done'
[Sat Oct 18 23:42:22 2008] Sydd tells you, 'yeah'
[Sat Oct 18 23:54:43 2008] Sydd tells you, 'we were just udping shit anyway lol'
[Sat Oct 18 23:54:57 2008] You told Sydd, 'k go away'
[Sat Oct 18 23:55:04 2008] Sydd tells you, 'well i was =p'
[Sun Oct 19 00:06:42 2008] You say out of character, 'FYI Siladen and his boxes have all been deleted. He admitted to me in a rude way that they were duping.'