well it seems cleint related. i yanked perl, back to strawberry - fresh db - fresh install of precompiled bins - and nothing.
looked in all 3 server install logs and it seems i get op_codes using SOD (0x327

some times another ... iirc 0x1003. also in each case i get an associated zone error log of:
op_unknown (#0 eq=0x0000), size: 4
op_unknown (#0 eq=0x0000), size: 1
op_targetmouse (#125 eq=0x0000), size: 4
last one twice, also these are all unexpected packet during client_connecting: opcode:
edit: nets down and im using ,my phone... so cant attach logs ect. also.... titanium seems to do this fine so reinstalling active perl 512 and giving it a shot on those bins
well i have another puzzle. titanium only dores it with quests / plugins removed. figureing wich one is the trigger now.
ok plug ins is not trigger, its quests (hey i was right woot) so now i isolated tutorialb to see. oh and now SOD is working )(pet weapons issue) so....