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Old 03-02-2003, 01:20 AM
edop2005
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They can legally sue you but I don't think they will do it until there are a large amout of eqemu users, let s say over 10000.
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Old 03-02-2003, 02:36 AM
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What difference would it make how many players the emu has?
It's not like they will get more or less money.

In any case, the Devs on this project are not giving them any reasons to sue. They're too smart for that. ...so far anyway...

If they decide to sue Eqemu, then they will have to sue HQ as well, and the next group that decides to work on an emulator. This isn't the first or last Emulator program. There are hundreds of examples of emulated game systems out there, and for the most part, legal action against them is a dead issue, as long as they don't break the laws.
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Old 03-02-2003, 03:27 AM
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guys, EULA's dont really hold up in court. So whatever the EULA says is considered law by Sony's terms and not anywhere else. However they might be able to get away with loosing buisness.
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Old 03-03-2003, 05:56 AM
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Hmmm.. well i wonder... do you think a EQ GM could be spying on us this very moment .
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Old 03-03-2003, 06:07 AM
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Yes, they know about us and the other emu.
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Old 03-03-2003, 07:03 AM
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Yes it is against the EverQuest EULA to use an emulator (such as EQEmu or EthernalQuest). Does this mean we are all going to jail? no. Does this mean sony/verant will ban your EQLive accounts if they find out you are using it? YES.

EULA's are not binding in court (unless you are fighting the account ban).


Dont give any hint that you are using it, dont give any hint about your eqlive accounts (e-mail addresses, names, citys, ect)...


Why dont we make an EULA for running EQEmu.

****EQemu EULA****
1. By agreeing to this EULA, you must jump up and down 10 times and cluck like a chicken before you connect to a server.

****
AGREE - DECLINE


Now, by agreeing to this, you have to jump up and down 10 times and cluck like a chicken or else we will sue you? i dont think so.. it might make us mad because you dont respect our rules, we might ban your accounts, but we cant sentance you to death by lethal enjection.......
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Old 03-03-2003, 07:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RayOfAsh
Hmmm.. well i wonder... do you think a EQ GM could be spying on us this very moment .

Yes i do think there could be an EQ GM watching right now. same thing for chat room..

DONT GIVE ANY HINTS AS TO YOUR EQ IDENTITY. if you do, byebye account
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Old 03-03-2003, 07:09 AM
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Oh, I just change my EULA.txt file to just say, "SOE SUCKS". And the credits say, "SOE SUCKS" too. But anyway, thats not very impressive.
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Old 03-03-2003, 07:19 AM
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I've seen trials where people sued a ham sandwich, and a Thunderbird. The state of New Jersey won against the Thunderbird, but the guy suing the ham sandwich lost. Just because you sue, doesn't mean that the judge will rule in your favor. Most of the time, it depends on what can be proven. Can they prove that our versions of the EULA said "yadda yadda yadda?" I doubt it... You can just say that you changed it, then agreed to it, and that it said "Sony owns Everquest. They agree to do my laundry." Then sue Sony for not holding up their end. It's all text that can be changed without initialing anyway. The true license agreement is not very binding, otherwise, Sony would be doing my laundry.
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Old 03-03-2003, 07:23 AM
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Ahahahahahaha. I don't know why, but that made me laugh. Thus:



I also recommend you add this to the patcher :D
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Old 03-03-2003, 09:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edop2005
They can legally sue you but I don't think they will do it until there are a large amout of eqemu users, let s say over 10000.
As of right now, there are 14,528 registered users. Already past your 10,000 mark. :P
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Old 03-03-2003, 09:58 AM
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HAHAHAHAHA!
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Old 03-03-2003, 01:08 PM
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Yes i do think there could be an EQ GM watching right now. same thing for chat room..

DONT GIVE ANY HINTS AS TO YOUR EQ IDENTITY. if you do, byebye account
I'm sure there are GM's keeping an eye on what gets done here. I'm sure it makes good business sense to at least be aware of any derivative or interactive products with EQ, but if (and I stress *if*) SOE has GM's here for the sole purpose of banning people's EQLive accounts, let me be the first to say to those employees that you are pathetic immature excuses for adults.

No, no one has banned my account. I gave my account away a million years ago, and there's nothing to ban. But I do consider myself to be somewhat mature, and I've worked for many years in the software development industry. One of the projects I'm most proud of involves military communications--there are brave men and women out there right now defending this country (the U.S. of A.) using equipment that I helped to develop, and I'm damned proud to have the knowledge that my portion was as bulletproof as I knew how to make it. To the GMs: these people are out there defending me, and they are defending YOU. The thought that someone might spend his hours doing something so unproductive as trolling message boards so he or she can ban someone's *videogame* account makes me want to throw up. Pathetic doesn't begin to scratch the surface. If you're going to work in IT, at least do something productive.
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Old 03-03-2003, 01:26 PM
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LOL, Windcatcher. DAMN! I laughed so hard I farted!
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Old 03-03-2003, 01:36 PM
Aragain
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Windcatcher's post wasn't funny, it was very true, and I can say I know how he feels.

The thought of some sneaky little bastard just sitting there behind his computer screen waiting for the right information to pop up just to ban an account is frustrating, I don't think it has happened yet though, has it?
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