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09-08-2019, 09:22 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 82
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Dont call me a liar
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Originally Posted by shadeknight
Big ol salt from the guy above. Unfortunately, he had to make up stuff to try and trash the server.
The god armor isn't auggable on purpose. The etherforged stuff that is. You get the gear, as I recall from when I was last on, by earning enough points via killing. What drops are spells, spell-granting items (ether), and items to level up to 75.
Kurns crashing is known, and its a little hard to fix I imagine when its caused by mass pulling. There's also the known issue of lockups/LD people being screwed, but Shodai (afaik) can't do much about that.
Most progression mobs have been dropped to, what, an hour at max respawn rate. That's not arbitrarily long. 2hrs for some god-tier specific named, but there's very good reason behind that. There was a guy complaining about Xalgoz' spawn rate/drop rate, and Shodai looked into it - and fixed the drop rate of a specific item. Big thinks. Beyond like a handful of things, most are on an hour AT MOST timer. An hour is nothing compared to real EQ wait times.
The class stuff isn't overlooked, I wager. I've looked in the suggestions part of the Discord (more active than the forums) and shodai either addressed that he's fixing it or what's going on with it. For example, Stoned & Oog pointed out a healing issue. Shodai looked into it. Same with mitigation problems. If its brought up then he looks into it - but it's also likely that there's a lot for him to do between bug fixes, class tweaks, and preparing the next shard of content. It's not exactly easy doing this sort of work.
I, on the other hand, won't tell people to pass it up. Because while there -are- issues, they are not as horrible as this person above is making them to be. Shodai & Enine aren't as biased as this person makes it out to be - but bear in mind: The guy above may be someone who arrogantly proclaimed that the server was going "suffer" unless his suggestions were implemented.
Btw: there are multiple testers. Stoned, Oogmog, Enine (Dev, but still), Tupp, and Iserak are a few I know of. Some of them play multiple classes, and helped with the God stuff - and still do to this day.
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It's your word against mine. Only proof of truth will be people logging on and seeing im not lying. I am not concerned at all about this. I dont appreciate you calling me a liar when not only I have complained about the things above, other people have too. But go ahead and keep on white-knighting. Truth will out.
Edit: Also, what exactly did I make up?
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09-08-2019, 10:12 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 36
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You exaggerated the class stuff. If that was true, then Shodai wouldn't be working to fix issues with the healers. Or mitigation issues that cropped up with warriors.
You exaggerated / lied about how there's arbitrary timers on respawns. Xalgoz, for example, is on a 10 minute (give or take) respawn with it changing between ph and xalgoz. Someone mentioned the sword drop rate was absurd, and Shodai upped the drop rate. However, the respawn timers beyond that are hardly arbitrary when an hour flies by pretty quickly. Megalodon? That's needed and Shodai explained he can't do much about it.
Your exaggeration about the drop rates was laughable - considering in MY experience, I had more leather and chain repeats than I did plate. This was in PoFear. That's not a server problem - that's just shit RNG for you.
The kurn issue is known, but that was for -mass- pulling the zone and so far? It seems to be warrior based. There's nothing reported (which, y'know, is half the issue if people don't speak up) about other classes having issues.
So far, I've scrolled up - no one mentioned the necro line of spells. The only thing necro-related mentioned was god-tier necro spells doing a wee bit too much damage. The mage mod rod has recently been fixed.
No one has any reason to take you seriously if you're Dread1313 - a guy who had his head so far up his ass as to believe that his suggestions were going to save the server - no questions asked. If that's not you, then I apologize - but your issues are either personal or a load of crocodile shit.
For example, the ranger nerf? Needed. There was some serious overtuning, and Shodai agreed. Paladins? They can snooze through god content more or less. Tweaks were needed. SKs? SKs have mana cost issues, low damage in some areas, and weren't as OP as you made it out to be. Trust me, I actually played one in God content.
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09-08-2019, 06:17 PM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 82
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Namecalling and personal attacks are so "early 2000's".
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Originally Posted by shadeknight
You exaggerated the class stuff. If that was true, then Shodai wouldn't be working to fix issues with the healers. Or mitigation issues that cropped up with warriors.
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Where did I exaggerate about class stuff? I noted that pallies are getting nerfed, thats factual. I noted that rangers are getting nerfed, also factual. I made comments about how broken some spells are - also factual. I mean I can provide screenshots if you really need me to, but at this point - is that really necessary?
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Originally Posted by shadeknight
You exaggerated / lied about how there's arbitrary timers on respawns. Xalgoz, for example, is on a 10 minute (give or take) respawn with it changing between ph and xalgoz. Someone mentioned the sword drop rate was absurd, and Shodai upped the drop rate. However, the respawn timers beyond that are hardly arbitrary when an hour flies by pretty quickly.
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I was explaining that the spawn timers cannot be circumvented by the use of the boss spawner. The boss spawner is basically useless because it cant be used in the old world and anywhere past Velketors (demigod version). So have it? Just to spawn OOT bosses? Sorry but that doesn't warrant grinding 17 and a half million plat imho, and EVERYONE i talked to complained about the same thing and they told me they wish they had known about these things and the fact that its a 30 min timer. This is a factual statement. Not exaggerating.
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Originally Posted by shadeknight
Megalodon? That's needed and Shodai explained he can't do much about it.
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What exactly is needed about locking out megalodon for 1 hour? When you can instance Veeshan and farm till your eyes bleed but megalodon is not instanced? Lower the timer or make it an instance. Ive also talked to other people about this and they agree that 1 hour lockout after a mob is killed 5 mins after entering is silly and un-needed. I mean I understand giving undergeared or unbuffed people enough time to kill him in case it fails, but ive literally never seen anyone complain or mention (except the one guy on the forums a while back) about killing megalodon. The "waiting in line" issue is what needs to be addressed.
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Originally Posted by shadeknight
Your exaggeration about the drop rates was laughable - considering in MY experience, I had more leather and chain repeats than I did plate. This was in PoFear. That's not a server problem - that's just shit RNG for you.
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I wasnt talking about fear. I was talking about GOD TIER drops. Pretty sure I outlined that in my previous post. Since you only can resort to insults, I will respond by pointing out your reading comprehension skills are severely lacking.
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Originally Posted by shadeknight
The kurn issue is known, but that was for -mass- pulling the zone and so far? It seems to be warrior based. There's nothing reported (which, y'know, is half the issue if people don't speak up) about other classes having issues.
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The zone crashing isnt just in Kurn's its pretty widely known that this also happens in OOT and Fear, but it seems to be based around mass pulling. Which is somewhat understandable. This hasnt happened in Velks and other zones like Unrest as well as others. Also a factual statement, not exaggerating.
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Originally Posted by shadeknight
So far, I've scrolled up - no one mentioned the necro line of spells..
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I just did.
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Originally Posted by shadeknight
No one has any reason to take you seriously if you're Dread1313 - a guy who had his head so far up his ass as to believe that his suggestions were going to save the server - no questions asked. If that's not you, then I apologize - but your issues are either personal or a load of crocodile shit.
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I dont know who this "Dread1313" is who has chapped your ass or offended you like this, but its no reason for you to take it out on me. My first post didnt even attack you, or anyone. I was just leaving negative feedback. I dont know who the hell you are, or think you are - that gives you the right to attack me like this, but it sounds like its not Dread1313 who has his head shoved up his ass, whoever he is. Are you trying to out him so he will get banned or something? Does he even still play? Maybe he just was ticked off like me (like several others I know) and left with parting thoughts and you couldnt handle the negative feedback or criticism, you know - kinda like how you are showing on here? If you (not you specifically) are going to host a private server for people to play - you need to be able to handle negative feedback or criticism every once in a while because you aren't gonna please everyone. Everyone is going to have a different view of whats acceptable or not. 95% of the people will just quietly log off and never log back on again without saying a word, but those 5% vocal minority feel like they have something to say. Thats just a fact of life, and if you can't accept that - well you're gonna have it rough. Resorting to personal insults, namecalling, and personal attacks just shows that I am right and maybe Dread1313 was as well.
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Originally Posted by shadeknight
For example, the ranger nerf? Needed. There was some serious overtuning, and Shodai agreed. Paladins? They can snooze through god content more or less. Tweaks were needed. SKs? SKs have mana cost issues, low damage in some areas, and weren't as OP as you made it out to be. Trust me, I actually played one in God content.
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Regarding SK's, I had someone else tell me different. That person is also in God content and he said he watched a SK do exactly what you said pallys do. So... /shrug?
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09-08-2019, 12:16 PM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 43
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I want everyone to have fun and enjoy the server, after all that's why I created it. I'm truly sorry your experience wasn't. It's not a good feeling to wake up and read this kinda thing I can tell you that.
FWIW, I do my best to tweak and fix things and always keep a running list. Sometimes I can squash things super fast, sometimes it takes a bit longer given my RL obligations, and sometimes I just don't gel with feedback and need to stay within the bounds I've created for myself.
Also FYI, anything and everything that gets reported and/or updated almost always originates in the suggestions/feedback channel on discord.
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09-08-2019, 12:46 PM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,332
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shodai82
I do my best to tweak and fix things and always keep a running list.
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Ya, I wouldn't let "one" negative post get to you. Your server already has an abundance of respect for the work you put in, as well as positive feedback. I threw in my little sarcasm to his post, because people seem to come here and post about bugs (or complain), but I've always been an advocate of "don't do dirty laundry in public", and get it worked out with server devs. Some players get disgruntled and impatient, but think you're able to sleep and work at the same time. 
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09-08-2019, 07:01 PM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 36
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I'll concede on the namecalling being too far. I apologize.
My question now is: Why wasn't any of this raised on the Discord? Or the forums? I scrolled up pretty far myself, and don't see anyone having this much of a fuss over everything you said.
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09-08-2019, 07:10 PM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 43
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Movement who are you in-game and discord please? I will reach out to you but if you are not the indicated user I have no way to know who you are.
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09-09-2019, 05:40 AM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 280
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hey guys.. remember the time you didn't pay anything to play on this server?
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09-11-2019, 05:47 PM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 82
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Except I HAVE donated...
I have donated.
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09-12-2019, 11:28 AM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 280
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Originally Posted by Movement
I have donated.
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You didn't have to.. Servers free.
He said he'd talk to you but you don't want that just more attention it seems. People like you make server ops burn out.
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09-12-2019, 04:15 PM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,103
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Ermagerd 1 thing didn't work.
I didn't submit a bug report, or tell anyone it didn't work, or even give feedback on how it could be improved.
Muh time and dollhairs been affected, server op bad.
Back when I was playing, Shodai would fix any issue that arose in less than an hour in most cases as life allowed.
To say everything is broken is a huge statement.
Learn to provide feedback, Shodai is a baller for doing all of this in his free time.
If you are unhappy, I'm sure he'll refund your donation, and you can move onto building your own vision, with no bugs and perfect content.
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09-19-2019, 07:05 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 82
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maze_EQ
Ermagerd 1 thing didn't work.
I didn't submit a bug report, or tell anyone it didn't work, or even give feedback on how it could be improved.
Muh time and dollhairs been affected, server op bad.
Back when I was playing, Shodai would fix any issue that arose in less than an hour in most cases as life allowed.
To say everything is broken is a huge statement.
Learn to provide feedback, Shodai is a baller for doing all of this in his free time.
If you are unhappy, I'm sure he'll refund your donation, and you can move onto building your own vision, with no bugs and perfect content.
<3
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You know what maze? You are a fucking asshole. You come into my post and flame me and talk shit to me while you are talking shit to Kinglycrab over here: http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41696
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Originally Posted by Maze_EQ
Need to:
A. Fix your damn code.
B. Fix your damn host.
Server unplayable due to 20kms ping.
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And here: http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/sho...t=41696&page=3
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Originally Posted by Maze_EQ
I feel this is going to be a Kimura.
Up, raving about content.
Down a week later.
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To which he responded that you were caughton his server AFK MACROING. Look bro, I know you are salty cause you got caught doing something you werent supposed to be doing and breaking the rules, and trying to cop out by saying "well everyone else in T10 was doing it..", and then giving him shit about HIS server and then coming here giving me shit because I am giving negative feedback to Shodai and trying to tell him what he needs to do to save his server. Yeah, that just shows me what kind of individual you are. Before you flame me or someone else again, why not taking a hard look in the mirror. Dont attack me again. Welcome to ignore asshole.
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09-19-2019, 07:20 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 82
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Splose
You didn't have to.. Servers free.
He said he'd talk to you but you don't want that just more attention it seems. People like you make server ops burn out.
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See my response at bottom.
Btw people like you make people not want to complain and just quit without giving feedback or a reason why so the server owner never knows why people wont play his server.
See? I can attack people too unprovoked.
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09-20-2019, 08:32 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: 37
Posts: 19
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Can someone please lock this thread..
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09-20-2019, 02:31 PM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 116
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Honest feedback met with hostility from other players. It's great you guys are passionate about the server, but I don't see why you feel the need to lash out on a dude for expressing his opinion's and observations.
Feedback is just that, feedback.
Server Dev's/Owner's can choose to act upon that feedback or ignore it depending on their personal vision for their server.
I can't speak for Shodai of course, but I would assume like me he appreciates all forms of feedback and carefully weighs his decisions based on his own criteria.
I didn't read anything in Movements original post that I would consider a personal attack on anyone. Unlike what he got in return for his honest opinions and feedback about a server he did enjoy.
Ah well, there's no such thing as bad publicity after-all. Cool server Shodai, I have enjoyed the bit of time I spent playing there.
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