How about on titles?

[Arex]

Hi guys, i was asking me how about on titles? u remember the titles that u get in eq-live when u get enought AA's, titles like Sir, Master, Marshall, etc.?

I think that it shouldnt to be very hard to develop, perhaps a check after each "You GAIN AA POINT", that check how many AA's u have and what is u class, and then update directly on DB "character name" using "new Title+character name".

It is only a idea, but i really would like to see TITLES in eqemu.

Thank you!!

[sfisque]

probably better implemented with a flag (column), rather than injecting it into the existing name column. IIRC, you could opt out of having the name, and also there were custom names given to people who performed special feats or solved quests first.

i know on Xev, there was a toon with the name "... of the Nexus" which he got for being the first to fulfill some quest.

so maybe 2 new columns, one for the specific title, and a flag indicating whether it is a prefix, suffix, or not visible.

== sfisque

[So_1337]

I started to type this post, but found a great page for reference and want to get it here in case that site ever drops:

These are the AAs available to each class based upon which epic they have completed; 1.0, 1.5, and 2.0. Where a difference is dependent upon the character's sex, the entry is seperated by a '/'.

BARD:
Composer
Wyrmkin
Blade Dancer

BEASTLORD:
Feralkin
Wildcaller
Savage Spirit

BERSERKER:
Agressor
Axe Master
Rageheart

CLERIC:
Curate
Priest / Priestess
High Priest / Priestess

DRUID:
Naturewalker
Forest Scion
Earthkeeper

ENCHANTER:
Mindbender
Coercer
Enigma

MAGICIAN:
Thaumaterge
Master Elementalist
Primal Elementalist

MONK:
Apostle
Enlightened
Ascendant

NECROMANCER:
Dark Apprentice
Deathspeaker
Grand Occultist

PALADIN:
Lightbringer
Redeemer
Valiant

RANGER:
Windcaller
Earthguard
Farwarden

ROGUE:
Swashbuckler
Infiltrator
Nightblade

SHADOWKNIGHT:
Pain Lord
Archfiend
Darkreaper

SHAMAN:
Heyokah
Fateseer
Spiritwalker

WARRIOR:
Champion
Conquerer
Decimator

WIZARD:
Catalyst
Scholar
Planeshifter

If you take up a trade skill you are rewarded with an additional title for your efforts:

100+ skill -- Apprentice
200+ skill -- Journeyman
250+ skill -- Expert
300 skill -- Master

General Skill Title

Baking -- Chef
Brewing -- Brewer
Fishing -- Fisherman
Fletching -- Fletcher
Jewelcrafting -- Jeweler
Pottery -- Potter
Smithing -- Smith
All (except Fishing) -- Artisan

Restricted Skill Title

Alchemy (Shaman) -- Alchemist
Poisonmaking (Rogue) -- Poisoncrafter
Spell Research (Caster) -- Researcher
Tinkering (Gnome) -- Tinker

Further progression through Norrath allows you to gain Alternate Advancement Experience points. Once you have gained and spent a number of points in the General, Archetype and Class tabs, an additional title is gained. This title is displayed over your characters head along with their name.

(Where a difference is dependent upon the character's sex, the entry is seperated by a '/'.)

CLASS:
6 points (in General)
18 points (in Archetype)
42 points spent (in Class)

BARD:
Baron / Baroness
Veteran
Impresario / Muse

BEASTLORD:
Baron / Baroness
Venerable
Elder

BERSERKER:
Baron / Baroness
Veteran
Savage

CLERIC:
Baron / Baroness
Venerable
Exarch

DRUID:
Baron / Baroness
Venerable
Elder

ENCHANTER:
Baron / Baroness
Master / Mistress
Sage

MAGICIAN:
Baron / Baroness
Master / Mistress
Sage

MONK:
Baron / Baroness
Brother / Sister
Sensei

NECROMANCER:
Baron / Baroness
Sage
Lich

PALADIN:
Baron / Baroness
Sir / Lady
Duke/Dutchess

RANGER:
Baron / Baroness
Veteran
Hunter / Huntress

ROGUE:
Baron / Baroness
Veteran
Marauder

SHADOWKNIGHT:
Baron / Baroness
Sir / Lady
Duke / Dutchess

SHAMAN:
Baron / Baroness
Venerable
Elder

WARRIOR:
Baron / Baroness
Veteran
Marshall

WIZARD:
Baron / Baroness
Master / Mistress
Sage

Source. (http://www.onlinegamecommands.com/everquest/everquestclasstitles.htm)

[So_1337]

Now that that's said, I don't think we would have to go into that much detail to start. Baby steps. The first set of titles that were implemented in the game were the AA titles. Those came with Luclin, and were strictly dictated by your class and sex and how many AA points you had spent in each tab.

Only later were titles implemented for tradeskills and epics, and the actual Titles menu came around the same time (which is in the Titanium client) that would let you pick from various ones that you have accrued.

I'd love to see even the first system implemented, but it's sure beyond me to do so. Hopefully I've pulled some information together for anyone who wishes to take it on, and Xenu be praised if they decide to :)

[Arex]

yes, like said So_1337, i also was refering to first system implemented of titles, dictated by your class and sex and how many AA points you had spent in each tab.

Yes sfisque, I think that u idea for develop it is better. For the first system of titles, u only would need one column, and show that column + character name. The next step would be use a check when u get a AA for modify that column in function of u class, number of AA's, and gender.

[AndMetal]

I'm not sure if this will help, but there is a section in the Profile blob (http://www.eqemulator.net/wiki/wikka.php?wakka=EQEmuDBSchemacharacterprofile) that corresponds to a title and a suffix. The title is at 2384 and is 32 bytes long. The suffix is at 2416 and is also 32 bytes long. However, I'm not sure if the emu supports reading from that location (would require digging through the source code).

[Arex]

Thank You AndMetal, perhaps the titles require less work in eqemu that i had though. I cant wait to see my title of Elder in my toy

[narcberry]

i know on Xev, there was a toon with the name "... of the Nexus" which he got for being the first to fulfill some quest.
...
== sfisque


Storytime: "of the Nexus" was a title granted from a very very early GM event. The title went along with a custom item that allowed the toon to port to the Nexus. At least, that's how it was on Sullon. Sullon's "of the nexus" toon made it partially through planar progression (when that even meant anything) and is rotting right now as the original owner has since forgotten the user/pass =). That's the way I remember it.


Fin.

[So_1337]

How can the 'blob' data in profile be read and/or edited? I'm wishing I had the knowledge to work on this, as I'd love to see it happen.

[AndMetal]

Here is how I read it using PHP: Convert profile blob to useful data (Wiki) (http://www.eqemulator.net/wiki/wikka.php?wakka=ConvertProfile).

A more up-to-date version of this can be found on Sourceforge: profile (http://customeqemu.cvs.sourceforge.net/customeqemu/customeqemu/includes/profile.php?view=markup) & functions (http://customeqemu.cvs.sourceforge.net/customeqemu/customeqemu/includes/functions.php?view=markup). The same idea (substr()) can be used in pretty much any computer language.

Putting it back is basically the reverse, by putting all of the data back into one lump, then updating it into the database.

I haven't tried this yet, although I did create a PHP utility to directly view the contents of the blob (not on Sourceforge yet, but will eventually be located here (http://customeqemu.cvs.sourceforge.net/customeqemu/customeqemu/character_/blob.php?view=markup)) with the intent of eventually being able to edit it directly from the same utility (like a hex editor), then moving to a more user friendly interface. My only concern about updating directly into the profile is that there is a Checksum field at the very beginning, and I'm not sure if it would cause any problems if you do modify it.

The hard work of breaking down what's where has been done, so all of the information you need should be there. From there, you'll just need to figure out the best way to inject the changes.

[Arex]

perhaps it is more difficult that i thought and we will have to wait years before to see AA titles in eqemu

[AndMetal]

Something else to contribute...

I found this in the Wiki (http://www.eqemulator.net/wiki/wikka.php?wakka=QuestObjects): $client->SetAATitle(txt).

When I executed it in a quest:
sub EVENT_SAY {
if ($text=~/aa title/i) {
my $aatitle = "Baron";
quest::say("Setting AA Title to $aatitle.");
$client->SetAATitle("$aatitle");
quest::say("AA Title set to $aatitle.");
}
}
It went through the script ok, but I didn't see the title on the client, even after relogging. However, when I checked the profile blob, it did set title field to "Baron":
02384 42 61 72 6F 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 B a r o n

So, it looks like the code is even there to set the title, but it isn't being sent to the client, or the client isn't seeing it.

[Arex]

it is nice to see any advancement, perhaps we need to do any opcodes research??

[TheLieka]

client_packet.cpp
void Client::Handle_OP_SetTitle(const EQApplicationPacket *app) {
// m_pp.title[0] = '\0';
//TODO: send some sort of update struct to everybody.
}

void Client::Handle_OP_RequestTitles(const EQApplicationPacket *app) {
//zero length request
//TODO: get the titles from somewhere, and ship em off

}


and

titles.cpp

TitleManager::TitleManager() {
}

I don't think the server's side is done. I'm more of a code tweaker, I don't have a clue where to start with something like this. Also when you open your titles window you get
[Debug] Unable to convert EQ opcode 0x5eba to an Application opcode.
[Debug] [CLIENT__NET_ERR] Death: Unhandled incoming opcode: [OpCode OP_Unknown (
0x5eba) Size=0]

Dax

[TheLieka]

To clarify: that's the current code that's in place - I didn't write any of it.

According to the comments in the code, you're supposed to use this table for the merit based titles.

create table titles (
id int UNSIGNED primary key AUTO_INCREMENT,
skill_id tinyint UNSIGNED NOT NULL,
skill_value mediumint UNSIGNED NOT NULL,
aa_points TINYINT UNSIGNED NOT NULL,
title varchar(32) NOT NULL
);

Dax

[Arex]

Thank you for the information TheLieka, then it is supposed that dev's already begun to do it any time ago, but they saw that this task was too hard and leave it for impossible

[TheLieka]

Thank you for the information TheLieka, then it is supposed that dev's already begun to do it any time ago, but they saw that this task was too hard and leave it for impossible

I wouldn't say that. It's more likely that someone was working on it, then dropped off the project before completing it. I've got a lot of confidence in the eqemulator developers as well as the community, so I wouldn't deem anything as impossible. It looks like the title #command and PERL commands do modify the character profile in the database (based on AndMetal's previous posts), but we might be missing opcodes for sending the title to the client?

Dax

[cavedude]

Yes what most likely happened was the project was never completed, or was at one point and has since been broken over time. It happens a lot, especially with older, forgotten code.

[TheLieka]

I believe the code that I posted was designed to keep track of autoassigning titles based on AAs and/or Skills, and though the manager for that is incomplete, we could still get titles via quest and #commands if we can address why the client isn't updating (unless, of course, it's an unattainable opcode).

I haven't had any experience with digging out unknown OpCodes, is this genetic knowledge, or something that can be taught? ;) Is there a way to gather them without having packet logs from EQLive?

Dax

[cavedude]

[Debug] Unable to convert EQ opcode 0x5eba to an Application opcode.
[Debug] [CLIENT__NET_ERR] Death: Unhandled incoming opcode: [OpCode OP_Unknown (
0x5eba) Size=0]

Well, that would indicate the opcode for the title window or whatever it is you did that caused that debug message is 0x5eba.

For the rest that don't write to the log and are 0, the easiest way is to get it from an old Live capture. If none are available, there is another way but I am not sure of the legality so I'll leave it at that.

[TheLieka]

If someone happens to have the answer to that question, and it happens to fall into an email, and they fall asleep at the keyboard - only to hit the "send" key after having typed daxumvz at gmail dot com in the recipient field, then I'd be happy to delete it from my inbox for them.

;)

Dax

[Arex]

TheLieka, finally got that u was looking for?

[ven-elexver]

Hi guys. I'm a noob who knows nothing about what you code guys do. But i also like the sound of titles. I was playing around with the Gm commands and seen that we have a #title . i have put GM as my title going to zone and see if it will show . Loading pls wait.... if this works maybe we could make a npc ,That lvl 50 players can hail but only lvl 50's have it set to give 2 titles if your male you respond with Baron or what ever maybe have more titles to pick from and have the npc do the #title Baron if test is Baron on target . ?? checking if DB has put the GM on my name . one sec...NO .crap i guess it makes your name to long and it will not support that many letters the /AFK flag dont work on my server well it was a thought

[ven-elexver]

TheLieka bet you know how your server has the warp detector set up ? love to have on my server

[Arex]

Finally looks thast project is dead, because nobody can understand the complexity of titles structure,

[mattmeck]

Finally looks thast project is dead, because nobody can understand the complexity of titles structure,

OR people are fixing things that are more important...

Nothing here is dead, that attitude just needs to go away.

[Theeper]

As TheLieka already said, it's probably because we don't have all the opcodes for the title window.

[KLS]

Rogean had the titles working at one point internally if I recall, so it has to be possible, but like matt said until some more pressing things are fixed I probably wont be working on this. Community is free to knock themselves out though~