FAIRWELL Confusing [READ DEVS PLEASE]

[theobeo92]

Ok, first of all, I have read about how the system is being re-done and stuff, and I have read about reverting to the old system. I still do not get this concept that you are doing! If someone cannot do something better, I will be forced to alert Verant and SOE of every single Developer name, email, IM, and website. Now, I know that is not what you wish; Trumpcard, Shawn319, and Hogie, but some people have lives, and I know you do too. I am saying that maybe you should work out an official deal with SOE, because I think that the welfare of your family and friends is not worth risking for a opensource project around the world.

I would also like to congratulate you on your opensource project success though. My newspaper here wrote an article on it on my request, asking how many people played. I had 92 replies. You have created the most highly difficult, challenging, and daring game that the world has known. I would like everyone to post a cheer, for Hogie, and everyone else, are the ones you made this project possible! :D :D :D :D :wink:
I would like to say, despite my love of EQEmu, and this very devoted project, I am leaving EQEmu and going back to EQlive, I love everybody, I admire Hogie, and I apologize to all those who created this project that I had not further helped.


[FOR DEVS ONLY]
I am also leaving several large lump sums on paypal for you Hogie, they will be deposited over a period of every 2 weeks. OK? I still believe in "The Project" but I am getting a guide position at EQLive. Who knows, maybe I will "sneak" a couple of upcoming updates dates for you.


Well it was nice knowing you all, I will check in every once in a while! I LOVE YOU ALL!!

Sincerely,

Theobeo92

[Shawn319]

sooooooo you're going to tell verant there is an emulator unless we bring back the patcher???

but you're still going to donate a large sum of money?


i dont understand lol

[Merth]

Was this a threat?

Or applause?

[bugmafia]

lol... talk about multiple personalities...

;)

it's basically what he is saying is this; you guys better keep on working your asses off in EQemu, and he donate, or you can just not work and he will report you... but ina very sleek way.. i think... :)

peace

[Acolyte]

THIS JUST IN: SONY HAS KNOWN ABOUT EQEMU SINCE INCEPTION, STORY AT 11!

[Edgar1898]

First off:
Your little threat about telling soe doesnt work. Grow up, just cuz your having problems, your going to tell sony? lmao
Sony KNOWS about the project, they probably even visit it every once and a while to find out how we are coming along.

I am saying that maybe you should work out an official deal with SOE, because I think that the welfare of your family and friends is not worth risking for a opensource project around the world.

Wtf was this about? You threatening our familys?

[burthold]

This has got to be one of the strangest post I have seen here in quite a while. WATCHOUT! Sony will get you, I'm gonna be a guide and slip you secret info and send you money I hope Sony don't put you all in jail??? I tell ya the emu draws some strange people in thats for sure.

Wes

[Trumpcard]

Now this really pisses me off.. I'm sick and tired of being 'threatened' because of the snide little snipes that come running into this project....

Verant has known about us for ages. Do you think they can't browse the internet just like you? There have even been communications between them and us.

Those guys have been nice enough to let us run with this project as we're not bothering them, hell , I'm all for EQ and wish them nothing but success, I loved playing the game. Ultimately, we just build support for them, none of our little servers will ever be a 24x7 gaming machine that theirs are, and we know that. Do you think we worry them??

If someone cannot do something better, I will be forced to alert Verant and SOE of every single Developer name, email, IM, and website. Now, I know that is not what you wish; Trumpcard, Shawn319, and Hogie, but some people have lives, and I know you do too.

So work harder or I'm turning you in ? Put up with my sh*t or I'm turning you in?

Hogie, don't accept any money from him.

Oh, by the way, what you're admitting to falls into at least 2 attempted criminal categories.

1) Blackmail - Extortion of money or something else of value from a person by the threat of exposing a criminal act or discreditable information.

What we do is not a criminal act, but from your understanding of it it does, therefore you are with forewith knowledge blackmailing us.

2) Libel - written defamation of character with the intent to do personal harm.

Bribery is debatable since in the true sense of the word no one in this project is an official.


'I think that the welfare of your family and friends '

That is a THREAT. And we have your ip address, your email address, all we should need.

I'm guessing youre Theo in Seattle? You do realize your parents are responsible for your actions, correct ?

Don't you EVER threaten my family and friends!

[Baron Sprite]

Trumpcard works for SOE! KILL!

[a_Guest03]

Ban that silly wanker...

I've read his text, and claiming to have $200 (WOW!!!! Didn't kabalah give that? Yay kabalah!!!) isn't going to make me like him any more. $200 isn't much on the scale of things. It all adds, but I think a threat of $2k would have more effect (and be less tangibly believable).

His dad would send us the $200 too! Yay!

Theo, a few things:

1. Grow up.
2. Grow up.
3. Get a high school diploma before you start acting big and bad on the internet.
4. Get a job where you learn some respect, not pizza delivery. Maybe you could learn humility there, then respect later.
5. Learn some patience.
6. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
7. Grow up.

I've read your posts, and you strike me as a whiny adolescent, whose life is run by his parents. How can they claim the rights to remove your PC and TV? Did they purchase these things for you? Did they do you that favor? You didn't want to do your chores, and so you take things out on us? Your girlfriend dumps you and you threaten us? You're not the first baby to pull the "I'm telling" card on us. It hasn't worked the other 12 times I've seen it.

So Theo, I don't like you. I doubt I will ever like you. First impressions stick. Learn some manners and interpersonal skills.

EDIT: Please take an English class, where they teach you to map ideas. I have no idea where you're going with this. It reads like an eleven year-old's vacation story. The point of your post is to change our minds about something, and I can't tell what the hell you want me to think. Please write something linear.

[theobeo92]

I AM NOT THREATINING YOU!!!! I AM COMPLIMENTING YOU! AND TELLING YOU TO WATCH UR ASS, CAUSE SONY"s GONNA GET YA! I was a little pissed off, but Im over it! I just think that people should find something else to do instead of waiting on EQEMU staff!!!!!!!!11 :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: do something with your lives, and wait for them!! Im just going to EQ!!! SO CYA LATER!!!

[a_Guest03]

If someone cannot do something better, I will be forced to alert Verant and SOE of every single Developer name, email, IM, and website. Now, I know that is not what you wish; Trumpcard, Shawn319, and Hogie, but some people have lives, and I know you do too. I am saying that maybe you should work out an official deal with SOE, because I think that the welfare of your family and friends is not worth risking for a opensource project around the world.

Maybe I just misread that.

[theobeo92]

I say goodbye, I would love for this shit to last, so I'll take pictures of my rear-end, so ya wont forget my ass!

Jesus! A little, bye theo, hope you had fun, thanks for EVEN FRIKKEN DONATING, would be nice!


IM TIRED OF LYING! IM 11 for christ sakes, I am a fucking punk, but....AT LEAST I COMMITED TO THIS! GOD, I DONT GOT A LOT OF MONEY! IN CASE YOU DIDNT KNOW! i am saying goodbye, my last post.

So I'll end this with a fuck you and have a nice day. 8)

[a_Guest03]

How'd you get a job as a pizza boy? *boggles*

Even better question: How'd you deliver them?

[fnemo]

bah ok . time for me to join the party !

remember J. Reno in Godzilla ? DST (French CIA if you prefer) is every . I work for them . I gonna arrest all of you ! no get off !

LOL

ok ok . i go back to my code :p

PS : rofl.

[Slayden]

I wouldnt accept any $$ from him.

[a_Guest03]

haha, come get me, Frenchie! Your laws don't apply here!

Not until the EU makes a stink with US, and they sacrifice me.

[Trumpcard]

Maybe we can trade you for Sophie Marceau !

GRRRRRR..


http://us.imdb.com/Name?Marceau,+Sophie

[theobeo92]

Im sorry all, I should not of said those mean things, yes, I was wrong, and guest_03, i dont care if you think im a jerk, I just wanted to say this to get that heavy burden off me, I was not threatining you Trumpcard, i just thought that if you continued on this project that when you got sued your family might not have a lot of support, I would donate, and i am going to, and i know 200 dollars is not a lot, but its all i got from saving up on my birthdays :cry: , ok? I like this place, and i came back just to say IM really sorry, and trumpcard, if you were trying to scare me by telling me where i lived, you succedded. I know my grammmer is bad, and I lied a lot, but i came back to say this, and thats what really counts. I dont care if you ban me, but at least I did the right thing, and I have nothing to be ashamed of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Mortamer]

Wait, this guy's 11, threatening the dev's and their families!? AND donating 200 dollars... This guy should be on seinfeld, because i'm laughing real hard in real life :P . 1. as said before, Sony obviously knows about the devs/the project, and they have A LOT more intelligance, resources, and money then you do, your threats mean nothing. 2. If you hate us so much why are you donating 200 dollars? Was this a lie to just like you having a pizza delivery job and a girlfriend??? I hate when people think they are soooo smart in 'alerting' sony. How can sony not know about this project lol...

[a_Guest03]

Okay, that's humility. That's one step closer to me liking him. It's nice to have a theo who isn't claiming to be

[fnemo]

A_guest : only if YOU pay me to come :p
(you got my point about toboe's post :D)

Trump : ok . there is Emmanuelle Beart too :p

[Trumpcard]

Apology accepted..

but DONT do it again.

Everyone play nice again !

I just wish ...(falls asleep in mid-sentence)

[Memener]

Lol damn........ I'm just going to leave it at that.

[Slayden]

He stained his Name in my Eyes....

[Spedfist]

its not like sony cares, they arent gonna spend the cost of their lawyers (omg thing about how much that would be) on a few devs and people that are running their servers, its a waste or their time, hell, they probably enjoy knowing their game is popular enough for people wanting to do stuff like this, and if they havent done anything in the past years theyve already known about the proj then i highly doubt they would.....and btw

i never figured i would see someone thats scitso posting ona message board like that, very strange post

[DeletedUser]

How many of you guys would like to see the exchange of emails from Sony's Legal department to me last September about the project? I have 5 or 6 email conversation i'll post if you guys want to see what they think of us.

[mattmeck]

Are you able to post them as a sticky? might stop people from making threating statments.......hhmmm maby not





Matt

[TheRealCadamer]

I wouldnt mind reading those. I for one do not understand how you guys can't get in trouble by Sony for this. Sure they might say they don't care for some odd reason. But that does not mean they can't always turn around and sue you.

Anywhos, I would really like to see those e-mails.

[a_Guest03]

Hogie, I've always been curious. If you can post one, I'd be curious to see if they like us. I know it increases interest in the main eqlive.

[DeletedUser]

Checkout the F.A.Q. Forum. I posted it there. Here is a link to the thread.

http://forums.eqemu.net/viewtopic.php?t=9018

[Windcatcher]

The simple fact is, they have little grounds to stand on. Writing your own server to interact with their client is 100% legal. End of story. If anything, trying to stop you from creating an interoperable product constitutes restraint of trade and I'm tempted to call it an antitrust violation. Inkjet companies are in hot water right now over such behavior (the practice of chipping their ink cartridges). Many other companies have been sued and lost when they go too far in trying to lock other people out. SOE can't stop you from interacting with their client any more than Microsoft can prevent someone from making a Microsoft Word add-on. It's flat-out illegal for them to do so.

Pirating is illegal, but creating your server software isn't pirating. Packet collecting may or may not be--it's something I've never been happy with, hence my desire to see original content created from scratch (including zones, models, etc.) As far as the PoP expansion, I was one of the loudest voices saying to TAKE IT DOWN.

As far as their EULA goes, they can deny you service by banning your accounts and that's it. Anything after that requires negotiation, since the usage agreement has terminated. IMHO you are perfectly free to wipe the EULA, say you *don't* agree to it, and they can go pound sand. Remember, you *paid* for your client.

I think we need to push hard for creating original content. The Admin Tool and OpenZone are my efforts to make this happen, but it's going to be a long road...

$0.02

WC

[theobeo92]

I do believe the other term instead of using "Pirating" would be, uhhh, piggybacking?? We are "kinda" getting on the back of their system and creating an emulator, we are not doing anything to it :twisted: , but we are using it cause its legal!!! :D :D :D

EVERYONE CHEER HOGIE, TRUMPCARD, SHAWN, and whoever was involved with "The Project"!

But then again, we are really not piggybacking, cause we're using our own servers, so what we really are doing is piggybacking the GAME itself. ITS TOTALLY LEGAL!!! WOOOOHOOO!!!

(note to self, next time, less humor, more to the point)

[theobeo92]

And how come i cant get lil' orange monkey butts under my name, i think it is cute hehehehee.

[theobeo92]

Monrezz has like 42, why cant i have some, boohoo! :cry: , lol jk DONT SHOOT ME!!!!!!!

[a_Guest03]

I don't even have the brown ones!

[Warlon]

eh man im 12 who cares man EQemu was like the best thing I ever discovered since reg EQ I like it the way it is. and since I am Paitient and responsible and I respect the DEVS, I got to be a GM to a few servers, now because of that, many players know me as a nice guy (I hope :?) but still man dont snitch on us just because its not the way you like it, if you dont like it then dont play it man just go play EQ or some shit like that. I dont wait my time complaining that this game sucks(And I dont think that) but man just dont play :!:

[Warlon]

delete this thread hehe whoops

[Shawn319]

/me cheers for shawn =P

[theobeo92]

Booo, I want orange monkey butts! Lol, or just one? Dont make me cut off one of yours shawn, cause u wont give me any lol. i want a monkey butt, hey i know! Thats wut i'll call my new guild, the Monkey-Butt People's FRONT!

WHOS WITH ME?? :!: ??? :!: ??? :!: ??