Lucid Zek server ... not by SOE and not EQemu?

vetoeq · #1 05-17-2004, 01:15 PM

I saw this tread over on the sk boards that I still troll from time to time...what is this server?

http://www.shadowknight.org/forums/s...threadid=21446

Mongrel · #2 05-17-2004, 08:22 PM

The only thing that makes that server "not affliated with EQEMu" is the fact that they don't use EQEMus login server.
They're basically using a program between minilogin and "our" public login that assigns accounts by their IP and not their user/passsword (Lucid Vision didn't crack the encryption).

Anyone can write such a "login server". Lucid Vision still uses all of the EQEMu code (with customizations, of couse).

RexChaos · #3 05-18-2004, 12:48 AM

I just want to say that their code rocks and they've done some great work. If you're into PvP, that server is going to be hard to beat...

Swampdog · #4 05-18-2004, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mongrel

They're basically using a program between minilogin and "our" public login that assigns accounts by their IP and not their user/passsword (Lucid Vision didn't crack the encryption).

I wonder how that works with folks that don't have a static IP address or people that travel and still like to play from a different location. I'd be curious to hear from some of the other server ops not using the eqemu login servers in order to run private servers to hear how everyone is setting them up. Are they all IP based account detection and does anyone have a "login server" that is being distributed?

88mustang50lx · #5 05-18-2004, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Swampdog

I wonder how that works with folks that don't have a static IP address or people that travel and still like to play from a different location.

They just have to sign in at the log-in webpage(favorite it) each time they want to play on the server

KhaN · #6 05-18-2004, 10:45 AM

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They just have to sign in at the log-in webpage(favorite it) each time they want to play on the server.

This is an example on how to make it difficult when you can make it simple.

**Derision** · #7 05-18-2004, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KhaN

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They just have to sign in at the log-in webpage(favorite it) each time they want to play on the server.

This is an example on how to make it simple when you can make it difficult.

At the risk of being banned, I read at the Lucid Vision website that they made there own login procedure because they got banned from using the EQEmu login servers for advertising their server in ooc on Guildwars ... /shrug

KhaN · #8 05-18-2004, 10:57 AM

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for advertising their server in ooc on Guildwars ... /shrug

Official or semi-official version ?
And if its the official version, i will say that no one is stupid enought to go in its company office to make publicity about its newly created company, you have chance to fired.

Kambic · #9 05-18-2004, 05:22 PM

http://www.lucid-vision.org/phpBB2/index.php

Link to their forums. Standing with two years of RZ behind me and two more years of SZ on top of that, and a summer on the original GuildWars (and GM-ing there), they are doing PvP right.

Did they get their stuff from EQEmu? Duh yeah. Ever heard of HackersQuest? Probably not, because y'all are newbs and only just now jumped on the whole emulation thing, this isn't brand new its just finally in the last year or so gotted refined.

Judging from the only reference I have found to EQEmu made by a GM of LZ, basically their position is that EQEmu gave them the middle finger, but they are cool with EQEmu. So really I don't know what gives.

They have got a few guys who seem to know what they are doing, and a server capable of being a server (holding a hundred people in the zone, not just on the whole server - and this is happening).

Nothing they are doing is meant to tear down EQEmu, so I'm not sure why folks over here are getting so peeved about it: don't try to tear them down. If you don't like it pass on, but man read up on their stuff, what is there to complain about?

killspree · #10 05-18-2004, 07:07 PM

Have you ever realized EQEMU works far better and has far more features than Hackersquest, and hasn't been around as long? So really, who is the newb?

Kambic · #11 05-18-2004, 07:18 PM

Congratulations.

Of course EQEmu is far past whatever HackersQuest was, but if it wasn't for HQ, where would EQEmu be today?

Charmy · #12 05-18-2004, 07:28 PM

The HQ emulator Blows right now, probably always will, they don't have enough people working on the emulator, all the people on HQ are working on trainers for eqlive, so the emulator is full of collision errors, and they haven't fixed them in the last 2 months.

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Nothing they are doing is meant to tear down EQEmu, so I'm not sure why folks over here are getting so peeved about it: don't try to tear them down. If you don't like it pass on, but man read up on their stuff, what is there to complain about?

i don't think anyone ever said they were trying to tear down eqemu, and i also don't believe anyone is "peeved" about them using eqemu code, if the devs are upset i mean, it is an open source project...right?

Edit: if you ever decied to play on this server watch out for people who could be devs/gm's just playing normal, they give themselves custom items named after some of the people who host the server and you will get raped, i read this from a post, i didn't actually experience it, but just an fyi to anyone who is thinking of trying to play it.

Edit2.. this guy needs to be shot for his avatar.
http://www.lucid-vision.org/phpBB2/p...iewprofile&u=2

Swampdog · #13 05-19-2004, 03:17 AM

Not sure what put you in the defensive Kambic, scrolling back nobody said anything to tear down the folks at LV. In fact, I think all the comments on the server in this thread have been positive and agreed with your statements about it being a positive server.

Due to my question about the login server part it sparked a side discussion on the login server process and how they could be doing it without using the eqemu loginservers. There may have been some negatives posting about the way they are doing the process, but hey, they have it working and if it works for them great but others may not like it for themselves.

At any rate, was just kinda shocked by your response and couldn't find anything that would prompt such a defensive stance.

Charmy · #14 05-19-2004, 03:29 AM

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Due to my question about the login server part it sparked a side discussion on the login server process and how they could be doing it without using the eqemu loginservers. There may have been some negatives posting about the way they are doing the process, but hey, they have it working and if it works for them great but others may not like it for themselves.

Well i have said it many times, i am not a very skilled C programer but if you have the source for eqemu world.exe you can easliy understand how it connects to a login server and what information needs to be sent between the two programs inorder for it to work properly, so would it not simply be a matter of writing a program that would be listening on the correct ports, and then sending the proper information to world.exe when somone is logged in or not? i could be very naive here becuase i don't understand exactly what information is send back and forth, but i don't imainge it would be a difficult task for a talented programmer.... would it?

Kambic · #15 05-19-2004, 05:20 PM

I probably misinterpreted some of Khan's posts. And maybe just the in-general lack of LZ info.

And re-reading mine it does come off as uber defensive heh.

I am not sure how many of you played GW, but I did and now looking at LZ it just seems like GW finally done right and knowing the previous GW people and their "its free take our BS" attitudes, I at least foresee some angst coming from that department (I suppose not the primary EQEmu userbase).