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Old 11-12-2012, 10:08 AM
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another thing to consider is SoD+ clients are not available to purchase or download from stream at this time. Probably the majority of players use Titanium across most server. Unless someone wants to keep up with Live client to make it playable with emu to make use of mercenaries.
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:41 AM
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Probably the majority of players use Titanium across most server.
I don't think that is the case anymore. I think TFH is about 50% SoD+ clients, and EZ is probably 90% or more now. I don't know offhand what the numbers are for PEQ, but they are probably 50% or so as well for SoD+ clients. Most people run the UF client these days. Even though Titanium and SoF are the only legally available clients, they are still fairly hard to come across and most people don't bother trying to find them. The majority of clients attained these days are probably from illegal downloads. It is unfortunate there isn't a better option at this time, but it is what it is. At least most people who would want SoD or UF could probably get them if they really wanted to so they can use mercs and such.

Hopefully at some point in the future we will have a legal route for clients again that isn't so hard to locate and purchase (especially considering international players).

Sounds like Noport tried the MercsAndBots branch and saw that they are wielding weapons (which they always have on the branch). I guess he thinks that means we figured out the solution to the Mercs equiping weapons discussion in this thread. That is my interpretation anyway. Problem solved!
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:59 PM
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I've stuck this since it's currently active.

Also yeah the client thing is becoming an issue. I think realistically we're going to have to have a discussion about actually creating our own client sooner or later.
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:21 PM
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Thats going to be an interesting discussion considering the current stance on torrents. At least with torrents, there is wiggle room as if you bought something and lost the CDs you are kind of entitled to that data still, however its much more cut and dry when you are talking about ripping out the intellectual property(models, textures, zones, etc) and using them in your own product.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:41 PM
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It's not really anything new, game recreations requiring original installs have been around for a long time. Regardless this isn't the place.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:32 PM
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Just an update, moved mercs to NPC derived, gonna be a lot of bugs/un-implemented things that were bandaided before, such as merc death, merc zoning, etc.

Group joining/states will also be a pain to work with, from my limited testing.

Committing what I did tonight though
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:56 AM
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Did this commit go in? The last rev I see is 2255 from Nov 11th.

The sooner we can get this on the Trunk, the better, I think. I know Akka has a big change ready to go that might be a bit of a pain to get merged into the branch.

Inheriting mercs from NPCs will likely require quite a bit of work and testing to get the kinks all knocked out. It does make sense since technically mercs are NPCs. It would probably require a lot more duplicated code leaving mercs as their own class under mob. I kinda liked the idea of mercs being directly under mob, but hopefully having them under NPCs can be worked out before too long if we stick with using that route. I think having them as their own class directly under mob would probably allow for a cleaner and more flexible solution (even with duplicated code).
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