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General::General Discussion General discussion about EverQuest(tm), EQEMu, and related topics.
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09-17-2005, 10:53 AM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by XelloSollex
Why compete with each other?
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exactly why not come together have 2-4 legit server 2 custom servers 2 non legit ube servers and 1 pvp server. be a centralized comunity not broken down.... the logins are all centralized aleady so why not? |
09-17-2005, 12:02 PM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Nottingham!!
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Originally Posted by fault
exactly why not come together have 2-4 legit server 2 custom servers 2 non legit ube servers and 1 pvp server. be a centralized comunity not broken down.... the logins are all centralized aleady so why not?
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Good idea...except for one thing. I am a major player in the world of standardization and centralization, but in this case, centralization may be a bad idea. Many lower pop servers stays below radar. 2-4 kick ass servers gives Sony something to target. :(
Just my 2 cents.
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09-17-2005, 03:48 PM
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Hill Giant
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that may be true. however if you dont distribute a clientyour ok :P just distribute a "patch" written in your own code if a user uses it there modifying the client thmselves :P and also if the eqemu is written with mostly new code thensony cant do anything fairuse act protect eqemu  went through this with alot of ragnarok and lineage server stuff with gravity and ncsoft... they jsut like to scare devs of other software because its usually better.. and so far eqemu looks to bebeter heck i see someone even fixd the boats that sony screwed up and cant fix LOL ( at least on one server) |
09-17-2005, 04:50 PM
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Discordant
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Smith Falls, Ontario, Canada
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Originally Posted by fault
i see someone even fixd the boats that sony screwed up and cant fix LOL ( at least on one server)
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Which server, been trying to a bit now to gt them to work, keep falling thru them. |
09-17-2005, 04:58 PM
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I know how to fix that!
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Join Date: May 2005
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Originally Posted by rojadruid
Which server, been trying to a bit now to gt them to work, keep falling thru them.
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Try different genders..There are some ships that you cannot fall through.
http://www.eqemulator.net/forums/sho...ighlight=boats
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11-27-2005, 12:19 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
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Originally Posted by Dr Zauis
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The years old raft in toxxulia forrest works just fine for me. |
11-27-2005, 08:23 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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It really is time to end the debate about legality. The emu's are illegal, period. It doesn't matter if you don't charge, don't share code, don't use the client, et cetera. I would have thought WR's fun would at least open the eyes of some of the stubborn.
And by the way, just about every country in the world is involved with the international copywright laws that apply...I know of a couple exceptions, there are likely a few more.
Just because you buy a magazine doesn't mean you get to use the content without permission.
Other than that, there are some fun things going on...and I hope developers continue to enjoy themselves, and that gamers continue to check out their work.
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Last edited by Eredhel; 11-27-2005 at 04:27 PM..
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09-19-2005, 09:52 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Originally Posted by Damilis
Good idea...except for one thing. I am a major player in the world of standardization and centralization, but in this case, centralization may be a bad idea. Many lower pop servers stays below radar. 2-4 kick ass servers gives Sony something to target. :(
Just my 2 cents.
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If you remember though, the only reason Sony could shut down WR was because they were using Sony's patcher. Everyone had to legitimatley OWN the software(minus the expansion packs) so they couldn't do anything about that. I see no reason why we have to use software we legally own on Sony's servers, I own Unreal Tournament for PC, do I have to play on multiplayer servers hosted by Epic Games, NO, instead I play on servers hosted by clans and individuals. The expansion part is Sony's own fault for letting anyone with EQ installed download them through the patcher, you can't use them on a Live server without purchasing it in some form, but you can still get the software. |
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09-24-2005, 07:35 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by stefann
If you remember though, the only reason Sony could shut down WR was because they were using Sony's patcher. Everyone had to legitimatley OWN the software(minus the expansion packs) so they couldn't do anything about that. I see no reason why we have to use software we legally own on Sony's servers, I own Unreal Tournament for PC, do I have to play on multiplayer servers hosted by Epic Games, NO, instead I play on servers hosted by clans and individuals. The expansion part is Sony's own fault for letting anyone with EQ installed download them through the patcher, you can't use them on a Live server without purchasing it in some form, but you can still get the software.
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hahahahaha
Nice to see the emulator bubble is intact and preserved by the usual lies. |
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09-24-2005, 04:42 PM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Heaven.
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Originally Posted by stefann
If you remember though, the only reason Sony could shut down WR was because they were using Sony's patcher. Everyone had to legitimatley OWN the software(minus the expansion packs) so they couldn't do anything about that. I see no reason why we have to use software we legally own on Sony's servers, I own Unreal Tournament for PC, do I have to play on multiplayer servers hosted by Epic Games, NO, instead I play on servers hosted by clans and individuals. The expansion part is Sony's own fault for letting anyone with EQ installed download them through the patcher, you can't use them on a Live server without purchasing it in some form, but you can still get the software.
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No it isn't. Even if WR had no patcher, they would have still cent a CnD and they would have still been shut down. Its Sony v. Tiny (relatively) Organization. Theres power in numbers, regardless of who is right.
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11-27-2005, 12:11 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
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Originally Posted by stefann
I see no reason why we have to use software we legally own on Sony's servers, I own Unreal Tournament for PC, do I have to play on multiplayer servers hosted by Epic Games, NO, instead I play on servers hosted by clans and individuals. The expansion part is Sony's own fault for letting anyone with EQ installed download them through the patcher, you can't use them on a Live server without purchasing it in some form, but you can still get the software.
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/me resists the urge to CnP the relevant slashdot posts.
Except that Sony's real grudge lies with emulation stealing customers away from EQlive, and not so much that as a minor nusance becoming a major problem later on... putting out the burning leaves before they become a raging forrest fire. This is evident in their unsubtle attempts to outpace live compatibility with EQemu.
It's a classic example of a greedy buncha suits exercising their non-existant right to profit, and protecting their interests. Were it up to sony... they would shut down Blizzard, Mythic, and NCSoft through cicuit court action (stomping out competition). Let's be glad it isn't up to them.
And affirming what ciscyouc said, it's also a matter of who's willing to pay for expensive legal fees in order to prove who's within their legal rights.
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11-28-2005, 04:08 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by iamjooish
It's a classic example of a greedy buncha suits exercising their non-existant right to profit, and protecting their interests. Were it up to sony... they would shut down Blizzard, Mythic, and NCSoft through cicuit court action (stomping out competition). Let's be glad it isn't up to them.
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This is right about as retarded as saying that EQEmu or WR is legal.  |
11-28-2005, 10:44 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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Its more of who will listen when they get a cease and desist and when to ignore it  Sony's threats are just simple cease and desists through email, if they really wanted to take the effort they would just have someone give you the letter of notice to show up in court next week :P
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11-28-2005, 05:08 PM
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Actualy Image, the C&D I recieved for the Scorp2k web site was delivered certified mail and i had to sign for it.
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