Looking for info on fixing factions

[Kirgothi]

Hello all, I am using the PEQ database and I have noticed some problems in a couple zones. In Najena, Befallen, and Unrest many of the mobs are conning as indifferent to most race/class combos. Only the ghouls in unrest seem to come up as "scowling and ready to attack" in Unrest to just about any character. I did notice that to a dark elf necro they conned "warmly." In befallen only some of the skeletons on the first level are attacking and conning correctly.

I am thinking this is a db issue and not a map files issue because some of the mobs are conning correctly and attacking when approached. I looked over the schema here and have tried searching this forum and the PEQ forum, but some very unhelpful results came up with little to do with this problem.

I was hoping there was some information on how to go about fixing this out there already. I see the schema lists faction_lists and faction_values but it only provides details on the values table. Are there any other tables involved in factions? How much is the value incremented/decremented when a player makes a kill? What is the correct default value for most characters? Is it race, class, or diety based?

I am not even sure I know what the correct defaults should be, I thought I remembered unrest being KOS to everyone that entered because they are undead there.

Any info would help,
Thank you.

[Kirgothi]

Ok, this ended up in Quests for some reason. I started the post in the General section. What happened???

[RangerDown]

In both zones, your best bet is to find an NPC that is on correct faction, use #showstats on that NPC to find its faction ID, then go to the other mobs in the zone and use #setfaction [correct mob's faction id] to set the other mobs to the same faction of the mob you saw.

[Kirgothi]

Thanks for moving the post to the correct area.

I was hoping for a little more information than that. If I understand how the faction system works, I can just correct the problem. I really don't want to start changing what faction a mob is on.

I looked up the dark elf necros faction in blackburrow. He is KOS there and the current_value in faction_values is -420. The same char in najena is listed at -180. So I am guessing that the lower the value is, the worse you are with that faction. I was wondering what scale the value follows. Is zero = indifferent?

Also, in the faction_list table there is a column called "base." What is this for? Is this the default that the character will start at for a particular faction? Also there are then many columns for "mod" values. I am guessing that these are the increment/decrement values for things like killing mobs and having a particular race/class/diety combo. Is there a list somewhere on what they correspond to?

[sesmar]

There are 4 Tables with information pertaining to Faction. These tables are:

faction_list
faction_values
npc_faction
npc_faction_entries

faction_list is a list of all possible factions in the game. This base being the starting point and all the mod fields being modifiers to this base based on Class/Race/Diety - you can determine which is which based on the names and the Class/Race/Diety enumeration numbers.

faction_values only contains a character_id, faction_id and the current value of the faction for that character.

npc_faction is what I call the faction tables for the NPC's, this contains a Faction table name and ID as well as the faction id of the primary faction (the faction in which this NPC belongs to and reacts on.)

npc_faction_entries contains a list of all the entries in each faction table this starts with an ID in to the npc_faction table telling you which table this entry belongs to, then a faction ID into the faction_list table. The value field in this table is the amount either added or subtracted to PC's faction when you kill a NPC using this faction table, and I believe that last field (correct me if I am wrong) npc_value being either 1, 0 or -1 tells the NPC how to react to other creature with a primary faction of this entry. 1 being to help, 0 neutral and -1 they will attack.

[Kirgothi]

Thanks Sesmar,

I went through unrest with my GM and did a #showstats on the monsters. The factionID that comes up is the primary key of the npc_faction table. For example, a ghoul in unrest comes up as factionID 512. On the npc_faction table this is listed as a_ghoul with a primaryfaction of 117, which is the Ghouls of Neriak on the faction_list table. Makes sense.

Now the majority of the mobs in unrest have a primaryfaction of 0 (zero). Is this because we just don't know what faction they are on? Or does 0 represent something else? I tried checking some sites but they don't list a faction for these monsters, like a dry bones skeleton.

I am going to check out the other zones I am having problems with and I suspect there will be a similar problem with this faction 0.