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10-08-2007, 12:10 PM
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Matt, just for clairification, crypto is the use really of two keys or a cypher (meaning the use of varable keys). to encrypt/encode something, what the program is using really is a simple encoding process.
About SoE, don't worry about them, or leave them to me. You shouldn't have any issues with SoE while I'm around not unless the LS program has ummm... commideered code from SoE which it didn't appear to have.
Matt I understand the person whom coded it didn't want the source handed out, I know why, dispite what a prior dev had to say, that or either the person was really selfish for some reason, but I tend to believe the other side of it.
Also, if you open source everything we have here, stick the GNU licensing on it (upgrade to version 3 as soon as it comes out btw!!!) you WILL NOT, I repeat WILL NOT have any issues with SoE. If they did try and cause problem, you can count on the attournies of the Free Software Foundation (GNU) to help out, as they hate proprietary corporations whom horde code and try and extinguish those whome compete and create simular code (not to mention their new license addresses code patenents thanks to Microshit).
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10-08-2007, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Lalolyen
About SoE, don't worry about them, or leave them to me. You shouldn't have any issues with SoE while I'm around not unless the LS program has ummm... commideered code from SoE which it didn't appear to have.
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Pardon me while I try not to laugh.... *cough HA *cough
What makes you so special.... just curious?
If it involves the, "They cant do anything cause were breaking no laws" your right. But heres the thing about SOE. There a big company, and big companies can put a whole world of unnessecary hurt on small communities like us. They can drive us to lose lots of things just to put up a defense against them. Most would not be willing to bankrupt themselves and lose thier house just to at least get a lawyer that would work with them in court. And without proper defense and a deep knowledge of the law, whether your in the right or the wrong, your still going to lose cause you have no idea what your doing.
Its just flat out not worth it, tempting fate that is.
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10-08-2007, 02:07 PM
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Heh, I really doubt that you were able to decompile my program. I have yet to find a decompiler that can decompile an exe and produce anything but useless garbage from it. Even a program as small and simple as minilogin. If you really have somehow decompiled it, send me a portion of the source code. I have the source code so dont worry about sharing it with me.
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10-08-2007, 06:38 PM
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What makes you so special
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My past employment with SoE maybe...
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If you really have somehow decompiled it, send me a portion of the source code.
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Done... Check your pms.
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10-08-2007, 06:50 PM
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I took the liberty of also including the MD5 hash and opticodes.
I wouldn't let that message linger in your inbox, because if someone gets a hold of that hash, you're screwed (I'm sure the db for these forums are in plain text =) )
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10-09-2007, 01:33 AM
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I find it pretty ridiculous to post a new thread that you cracked minilogin, just to say "don't ask because I am keeping it a secret now", sprinkled with passive-aggressive threats that someone better start talking to you on IRC - or else.
I just wish the EQ client was as easy to work with as WoW, so when a patch comes out it doesn't break everything. Might eliminate the 201 excuses why EQEmu is stuck 5 years in the past. Has nothing to do with minilogin, that's for sure.
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10-09-2007, 10:24 AM
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I'll try to not turn this into a flame, but I would like to point out that the list of opcodes (not opticodes) that you sent me is located in opcodes.conf and even a third grader without l33t hacking skills could get that list by simply opening the file that is included in the minilogin zip.
Next is that doomsday md5 hash that will destroy the world if it fell into the wrong hands. I'm not really sure where you got that, but such a devasting flaw in the fabric of space time does not exist. Minilogin doesnt do anything magical and as pointed out earlier, you can already see what login sends to world and vice versa by viewing the world source code.
Now about the decompiled source code that you sent me. If you are an expert in assembly and can create something useful from that mess go right ahead. That "source" code, looks nothing like the real source code and the likelihood of someone being able to turn it into something more useful while at the same time not be able to create their own login server is extremely remote.
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10-09-2007, 02:14 PM
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My past employment with SoE maybe...
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I'm curious; what did you do there and why did you leave? 
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10-09-2007, 02:20 PM
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Network security officer.
Leaving: Pay Pay Pay Pay.
2 years ago, you probabley read, SoE fired about 200 employee's from their LA office. Thankfully I didn't get the boot, but their attitude after that, "Want a promotion or a raise? Go find somewhere else". So I did just that. Asside from that I was home sick too which played a big role in it =P.
I'm from NC, We were *planning* on settling down with my wife's family in CA... But there are just way too many fruits and nuts out there man.
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10-09-2007, 02:25 PM
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Code:
/* This file was automatically created by
* Reverse Engineering Compiler
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Oh come on, at least use IDA Pro when you use a program to extract ASM.
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10-09-2007, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Lalolyen
My past employment with SoE maybe...
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Originally Posted by Lalolyen
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OMG No way. You are like the coolest person ever. SOE better watch thier backs now....
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