my only request make the zones stop crashing!

[opyrus]

its definatly not performance related i would have noticed long ago im not new to computers..... unless 10 years tech work is "new" and knowing visual basic and c++ programming. i realy hate the stupid 5 min edit timer.....

[ChaosSlayer]

well consider the posability that the concurent running of wow and eq is the source of the problem...
which btw don't surprise me since wow is the source of all evil

[trevius]

If it isn't related to running bother server on the same box (which it most likely is), then the only other thing I can think of is that you might not have enough ports set to be forwarded on your router. If you have 25 dynamic zones setup to run, you will want MUCH more than 25 ports to be forwarded. I run 25 zones and have 100 ports forwarded for it (7000-7100) and it works perfectly.

The problem is in the way new zones are started. If you set the number of ports being forwarded to the same as the number of zones you boot up, then if 1 zone crashes, almost every zone after that that tries to start will crash as well. This is because it tries to use the next available port that is higher than the highest in use. If you have all of them used up, then it won't be able to load another dynamic zone.

This might not be your issue, but it is all I can think of atm.

[Angelox]

Originally Posted by opyrus

its definatly not performance related i would have noticed long ago im not new to computers..... unless 10 years tech work is "new" and knowing visual basic and c++ programming. i realy hate the stupid 5 min edit timer.....

I got a question for ya; how come you can bash, insult, use foul language on the members here, then have final word and close the thread?

[trevius]

Ya, I didn't see the updates to that thread until now after it has been closed. If I had known your server was being ran on a laptop, I would have mentioned that it could be a possible reason for your zone instability. Sure, laptops can have similar stats to PCs, but due to them being made especially to be compact, you will never get the same performance from a laptop that you will with a PC of similar stats. Laptops just aren't made for hosting servers with anymore than minimum usage. I am sure they can handle a small load perfectly fine, but expecting them to handle anything of significance will most likely result in issues.

I still get zone crashes on my server from time to time and it's stats are far greater than your laptop. Though, I also have quite a few more players on my server, but still the CPU hardly ever breaks 25% utilization and the RAM normally doesn't go much over 1GB (out of the 3GBs I have).

So, even though your stats might seem ok and it doesn't seem to be running a heavy load, apparently other things can come into play and cause zone crashes.

I don't think the comments you made in the closed thread were warranted at all. IMO, you should take a bit to cool down and relax. I think you were reading the other posts there as an attack on you or your server, but I don't see that when reading them myself. It didn't start to get nasty until you started calling names. There is no need for drama of any sort. I am not saying you are fully to blame, but just suggesting to try to keep things civil if at all possible.

And as for making a batch file to switch between servers, it isn't involved at all. And, it would make 1 simple click from the desktop to play whichever server you want (but different icons for each).

It would be something like these 2 files to switch between servers:

servera.bat

rename realmlist.wtf realmlist2.wtf
rename realmlist1.wtf realmlist.wtf
wow.exe (or whatever the file name is to start wow)

serverb.bat

rename realmlist.wtf realmlist1.wtf
rename realmlist2.wtf realmlist.wtf
wow.exe (or whatever the file name is to start wow)

Takes about 1 minute to write them and then no more renaming or dragging or whatever. If you wanted to use more servers than just 2, that could be done as well, but it would have to be slightly different.

[ChaosSlayer]

i won't even use laptop to play anything more serios than "worms"....
laptops are nothing more but large electronic notepads - regardless their stats

[trevius]

IMO, laptops are to PCs what PCs are to actual Servers when it comes to any sort of hosting. A real server box is going to be optimized for fast drive access and probably have multiple drives setup in RAID and might even be in a cluster of servers. They are built for stability and normally run an OS specifically for servers. A home PC is decent for hosting some stuff, but in comparison to an actual server, they won't get quite as good of performance and will have a few more stability issues. This is probably partially due to the operating system that is being used as well as the different hardware architecture. A laptop is always going to perform worse than a PC or Server unless it has considerably better stats and is running the right OS and has really good hardware and good tweaks to make it perform well.

I don't think the OS that the laptop is running was even mentioned yet. If it is Vista, then there are bound to be some issues running a server with that. I know plenty of people have had issues with Vista and running a server. To help with stability, you might want to consider Linux. It won't make up for the hardware on the laptop, but it should definitely help in the OS department. Though, I don't think the WoW Emu server runs on Linux, though I wouldn't be surprised if there was a version that can.

[xxarthurxx]

Originally Posted by ChaosSlayer

i won't even use laptop to play anything more serios than "worms"....
laptops are nothing more but large electronic notepads - regardless their stats

Well, id say thats a very ignorant statement, for 1 a laptop can easily run things a tower pc can and you even have a short supply of built in backup power if the electricty goes out. I run my server from a laptop with linux installed and it runs perfectly. Laptops are nothing like they were 5 years ago, get with the times sir.

[trevius]

His laptop is a 1.8Ghz, so it just might be from almost 5 years ago (or at least 3) :P

Yes, they can be powerful enough now to run most things, but they simply weren't designed for hosting servers.

I imagine your laptop should be fine for hosting your server, but you might start noticing performance issues once your player numbers start to rise.

Of course, the right tweaks in the right places might help that considerably. Many laptops have settings enabled to reduce performance to conserve battery life. Most of these can be disabled to always be max performance, but it might be something worth checking into. But, even with the best tweaks, I still don't think a laptop will perform as good as a PC and won't come close to an actual server PC.

[LordRathgil]

Ok all this talk about power outages is jsut useless any internet connection you have will require power so thats a moot point no power=no cable or dsl mode = no server reguardless of the fact the notebook itself has a battery simple as that.

Laptops are NOT designed to run for extended periods of time, I have 3 laptops and 4 desktops one of each is brand new and the desktops with the same stats that the laptops have run far better and can run far more software then the notebook ever could.

So its not a matter of getting with the times, its a matter of the technology doing things it was never designed nor intended for.

Read your notebook manuals they all plainly state not to keep them running for extended periods. and again stop talking about the power outage issue because it doesnt matter that the notebook has a battery without power to the modem and router the server wont be up anyway

trevius is correct a notebook will never perform as well as a pc a pc will never perform as well as a real server

[opyrus]

what ever "my shit laptop" can run all zones in static and has i just dont like useing all that ram. it dident crash as much when i had it setup like that eather i should proly put it back like that its easyer to track down what zone crashed and how. it also ran rappelz epic 4 fine and oblivion and many other games.

[opyrus]

Laptop
Component Details Subscore Base score
Processor AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-34 3.7 2.4
Determined by lowest subscore
Memory (RAM) 2.00 GB 4.1
Graphics ATI MOBILITY RADEON Xpress 200 Series 2.4
Gaming graphics 891 MB Total available graphics memory 3.0
Primary hard disk 59GB Free (93GB Total) 4.2
Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate
System
Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard
Model Pavilion dv5000 (EZ524UA#ABA)
Total amount of system memory 2.00 GB RAM
System type 32-bit operating system
Number of processor cores 1
64-bit capable Yes
Storage
Total size of hard disk(s) 93 GB
Disk partition (C) 59 GB Free (93 GB Total)
Media drive (D) CD/DVD
Graphics
Display adapter type ATI MOBILITY RADEON Xpress 200 Series
Total available graphics memory 891 MB
Dedicated graphics memory 128 MB
Dedicated system memory 0 MB
Shared system memory 763 MB
Display adapter driver version 8.31.100.32
Primary monitor resolution 1280x800
DirectX version DirectX 9.0 or better
Network
Network Adapter Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
Network Adapter Microsoft Tun Miniport Adapter

[opyrus]

Main PC
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+ 3.6 3.6
Determined by lowest subscore
Memory (RAM) 1.50 GB 4.5
Graphics Radeon X1650 Series 4.3
Gaming graphics 575 MB Total available graphics memory 4.8
Primary hard disk 69GB Free (112GB Total) 5.1
Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate
System
Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Model A7N8X2.0
Total amount of system memory 1.50 GB RAM
System type 32-bit operating system
Number of processor cores 1
64-bit capable No
Storage
Total size of hard disk(s) 345 GB
Disk partition (C) 69 GB Free (112 GB Total)
Disk partition (D) 78 GB Free (233 GB Total)
Media drive (E) CD/DVD
Graphics
Display adapter type Radeon X1650 Series
Total available graphics memory 575 MB
Dedicated graphics memory 512 MB
Dedicated system memory 0 MB
Shared system memory 63 MB
Display adapter driver version 8.501.0.0
Primary monitor resolution 1280x1024
DirectX version DirectX 9.0 or better
Network
Network Adapter NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller
Network Adapter Microsoft Tun Miniport Adapter
Network Adapter 3Com 3C920B-EMB Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller

[LordRathgil]

if you had a clue youd know vista is using half of your ram just to run by itself genius read the minimum requirements for vista ultimate... 1 gig of ram that brings your 2 gigs down to 1 gig right there... but i shouldnt reply further because youll just close the tread like a little kid.

BTW that laptop is atleast 3 years old ( I know cause i have a turion 64 x2 model thats 3 years old.

[LordRathgil]

and your pc is even worse it shouldnt even be running vista ultimate, you really should try researching system requirements