I fought my way to them. At level 70 with 2 toon's it isn't that hard. But I've been messing around on the Plane of Fear, Hate, and Nightmares with my enchanter and SK. It's actually pretty fun. It's not raid difficulty with 2 level 70's, but the stuff deeper in the zones offers a 2 man challenge which is really what I wanted. The boss for Kael and Cazic-Thule (the god) pretty much kicked my arse all over the place. I'd need a group to do those. It's fun. I'm legitimately AA leveling. I've also been gearing my toons with stuff from the raids.
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