Weird login question.

**Doodman** · #1 03-21-2009, 07:45 PM

If you were having "Incorrect Password" issues, please try it again. It should be fixed now.

MichaelMontana · #2 03-21-2009, 07:47 PM

working, thank you

McLovin · #3 03-23-2009, 04:57 AM

everyones been having this problem for a while now and its never happened to me only when the servers are down i just wait it out n it will let let log in at a later time...right now idk if the server login is up but its not letting me in and its giving me the error message that my PW or station is incorrect
its 1:50AM

drakheim · #4 03-23-2009, 05:30 AM

Yeah... 4-5 hours now can't login. "Ivalid unsername/password.."

Aergad · #5 03-23-2009, 06:16 AM

Doodman I PMEd you as instructed I also can still not login I get the bad username password error

Side note Devnoobs LS Site is back up

drakheim · #6 03-23-2009, 06:46 AM

about 7 hours now. obviously mommy made timmy turn off his computer or something.

One less- i'm going to just pay for live again. Enjoy server crashes 5 times in a day and only logging in 4 days out of the week.

man101 · #7 03-23-2009, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drakheim

about 7 hours now. obviously mommy made timmy turn off his computer or something.

One less- i'm going to just pay for live again. Enjoy server crashes 5 times in a day and only logging in 4 days out of the week.

Unfortunatly i am almost to the same point as him

**trevius** · #8 03-23-2009, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drakheim

about 7 hours now. obviously mommy made timmy turn off his computer or something.

One less- i'm going to just pay for live again. Enjoy server crashes 5 times in a day and only logging in 4 days out of the week.

LOL, why even bother posting if you plan to leave for good and not look back? Especially when it sounds like you think the LS is hosted in someone's basement, which shows you haven't really taken any time to read any of the current news on the LS issues and what is in the process of being done about it.

If you like Live and don't mind paying, then by all means, feel free. If you want a free, live-like or custom EQ experience, then give it a few days and it should be at about the same uptime that Live currently has :P

Either way, there is no use for posts like this and if we keep seeing them, people will start getting banned for it. I am not talking about posts complaining about the LS or asking about it, only ones that sound like a threat. A threat to leave because you aren't getting your way is still a threat and shouldn't need to be tolerated. It isn't going to get anything done any faster than it is already being done. No one on the team gets paid to help out around here, we just do it because we want to. Either way, a solution is in the works, so for anyone with patience, everything should be running very smoothly very soon. It takes alot of planning and work to make sure the new hosting move gets done right and flawlessly and to the right hosting service that will give us the optimum performance and uptime.

BottleRog · #9 03-23-2009, 07:05 AM

They are gonna miss all that phat cash you were paying them ...... wait a second there is no phat cash from you!

Aergad · #10 03-23-2009, 07:07 AM

well I have to say given what ive read so far, that isnt entirely true, the team gets paid via donations so to speak, perhaps not regularly and so forth but money changing hands is infact money changing hands.

I dont think that threatening to ban people for voicing thier displeasure about the LS issues is helpfull persoonally, I mean the posts about getting a new ls and so forth have been up since i joined days ago. So far the only people who have actually listened to the community are devnoob and image, they took the time to not only get a seperate public ls up but also revamped minilogin to utilize username and password authentication which is something so many have asked for, sure its limited on the number of accounts at present but it is progress none the less.

I agree that the current LS issues are intolerable, it should never have been allowed to get to the point it is at, nor should the community be so dependant on only ONE Ls. Posts have been made about keeping a captive audience and that is precisly what is going on. Noone will release a public LS in any form either source or precompiled binaries, because as i understand what ive read so far the staff are terrified of fork projects being made and it killing the project, but i submit this question, is the current LS Setup not already killing the community BECAUSE there is no cahnce of redunancy? People will leave simply because its never up, and yeah while there are posts that state a new one is being procured and so on and so forth there is no telling when the project and community will be in the same boat.

I understand that the devs of the LS dont want the source released... Fine great not a problem... distribute binaries or something so this kind of thing NEVER happpens again

yarmond2 · #11 03-23-2009, 07:17 AM

Any hints as to what is going on right now with the LS? Nothing but error, not even getting to see the servers.

**trevius** · #12 03-23-2009, 07:47 AM

I think you misread my post. I don't have any problem with people voicing their concerns about the Login Server. But, there is no need for posts basically saying the project is shit and they are leaving, which is essentially what drakheim was saying.

And no, none of the current members of the EQEmu team are paid for what they do, even from any sort of donations. There are donation links from the main site where people could send money to some of the old devs who aren't even involved in the project anymore, but that is only because the site hasn't been updated in years. And no one sends them money anymore anyway. Doodman has been paying for the current Login Server hosting out of his own pocket for quite a while now as far as I understand.

The recent donation request by KLS was just setup a few days ago and that money will be going directly to paying for the new hosting and nothing else. So, again, not a penny to the team. We don't need or want money for what we do here.

The new mini-login from devn00b and image is not restricted to 20 accounts because they don't know how to remove that restriction, that is something they set on purpose. They could remove those restrictions completely in about 2 seconds. Yes, there new Private and Public Login Servers are cool and are nice to give the community more options, but as soon as the new hosting is in place for the current Login Server, all of our worries will be over. People will quickly forget about the issues with the LS and go back to just enjoying the emulator.

This webite, forums, wiki and even the current Login Server are all parts of the EQEmu project and will soon all be managed by the same group of active team members. We develop the server code and make sure that things are moving in a good direction. Yes, the current Login Server sucks, but that isn't our fault. It has been maintained by doodman for about 2 years now and he has been uninvolved in the project almost that whole time due to being very busy IRL. The plans are that he will be passing it down to a current active member of the team, KLS, who will ensure that everything has maximum uptime possible.

Where things go from there, we will see. I imagine that there will probably be other alternatives and maybe some backup Login Servers going to allow for redundancy at some point. If image and devn00b release their mini-login without the restrictions it currently has, then it shouldn't be too hard to code it so each server can have their own private back door Login Server for when the public one is down. But, from the looks of their site, it seems like they are already planning to start charging for the non-restrictive builds. Personally, once the new hosting is in place, there won't even be a need for a backup, so I wouldn't bother paying for that myself unless I saw a good reason to :P Nothing else with the emu costs money, so I am not really for charging for stuff like that. Again, we will have to see how this all pans out. Shouldn't be much longer before everything is finalized.