That's It Kathgar

Mori · #1 08-09-2002, 03:18 PM

I've come to the eqemu irc channel many times and asked questions. Kathgar in his /sarcasm infinite wisdom /end sarcasm has kicked and banned me every time I ask. I ask you hogie to un ban me and take away ALL of kathgar's powers.

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Note: Kathgar's powers have been taken away before.

TheClaus · #2 08-10-2002, 05:02 AM

I would have to agree on this kathgar needs to be a bit nicer.

kathgar · #3 08-10-2002, 06:05 AM

First of all, I've never had my powers taken away. And second, I only kick/ban the -REALLY- annoying or -REALLY- stupid, sometimes people qualify under both. Oh, and if you taunt me, you are going to get a foot in your ass. You would also notice, that when I kickban people, I take the ban off right away. The only reason I ban is so they don't autojoin back. Also, all of the bans are cleared by chanserv quite often, so stop your whining.

Hardy · #4 08-10-2002, 08:38 AM

STUPID people huh? Just what makes them stupid? Just because they don't know something that you do? Is that why? I would say lock this thread and I agree with Mori, do something about him, because helpers are here to help, not to ban/kick just because someone is being stupid, which I doubt anyone is, they just don't know the answer and need an answer. Please lock this thread.

DeletedUser · #5 08-10-2002, 10:28 AM

hehe

Kathgar has successfully raged you.

Hardy · #6 08-10-2002, 10:29 AM

heh, he raged me? I don't get mad to easy, i just tell it like it is :p

DeletedUser · #7 08-10-2002, 10:33 AM

Hardy.. from what kathgar has been kick/banning its usually been over something funny..

or they are asking:

Quote:

HEY GUYS IM NEW TOO TEH EMU CAN I BECUM UBEER!

All the same.. they are pretty stupid.

As for mori.. no clue.

Hardy · #8 08-10-2002, 12:03 PM

Shouldn't kick someone just because they are new and don't know much about the emu yet.....

DeletedUser · #9 08-10-2002, 01:55 PM

Quote:

HEY GUYS IM NEW TOO TEH EMU CAN I BECUM UBEER!

There is a fine line between new and stupidity.

Please lock this thread.. just more waste of space.

kathgar · #10 08-11-2002, 11:08 AM

I only kick/ban people that ask questions that are in the readme, or posted on the forums, most of the time as stickies.. Oh, and I'm not a "helper", I'm a coder, that means, well, i'm not there to help you? When people have /real/ problems, I help them.. such as everyone with the wrong loginserver.ini because of lyenu's idiocy. Oh, and if you can't read the documentation and know /nothing/ about computers more than clickyclicky icony, you shoudln't be running a server? EVERYONE and their MOTHER will spend up to a week asking questions that have been answered many time, to set up their own server, and once they have it working 2 things will happen. 1) They decide that running their own server is pointless. 2) They have problems because they want to install the latest (BETA builds, which are label nicely as NO SUPPORT.. and half of the time they want to use Minilogin as well) whenever a new build comes out.

Hey! LoginServer.ini has hostmasks instead of IPs, and Lyenu took the domain away.. and the world server says it cannot resolve the IP of the loginserver.. maybe its because the DNS zonefile only has 1 A record, and its pointing to geocities.

phef

Hardy · #11 08-11-2002, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Oh, and I'm not a "helper", I'm a coder, that means, well, i'm not there to help you

Then why are you banning people for asking "dumb" questions when u don't even have to be answering them. I have asked stuff that was out of the readme for 1 reason, the readme might not explain stuff to well, as long as they read it, I would have no problem helping them. Not all readme's are perfect, not all of them might explain stuff to well either.

Trumpcard · #12 08-12-2002, 01:53 AM

Hmm.. My take on it is if youre just going to get pissed about people asking dumb questions in the only publicly available eqemu channel, then you may really want to reconsider hanging out in there... Patience is a virtue, and personally, fostering that kind of crappy attitude is just going to add to the general concenus that the dev's are a*holes that most projects end up getting (this project as well).

I know how frustrating hearing the same questions over and over can be, but a developer that randomly boots people out of the channel for asking questions is not good for the image of the project... Yes, there are alot of questions that are answered in the readme's, but coming from someone who's relied on reference material his entire life, even the most well documented information still doesnt answer every question, especially since not everyone is coming from the educational/experience plateau.

I don't know how long you've been involved with the project Kath, I've been working with the emulator pretty much from the beginning, but I don't think coming in and starting to be the judge, jury and executioner of the IRC channel is doing anyone any good... I value everyone's contributions to the project, whether it be in the development of the emulator, tools, or databases, but I hate to see that kind of holier-than-thou IRC attitude.

Personally, I don't hang out in the channel anymore as I almost never saw any real eqemu related discussions in there, so it really doesnt matter to me. Things may have changed though since I haunted the channel.

My 2 cents though..

a_Guest03 · #13 08-12-2002, 01:54 AM

Let him do his coding and leave him alone. From my dealings as a short-lived CIS major, I've learned that all too often coders and other people don't get along too well. He's not supposed to be nice to you guys. He's supposed to code. Ignore all this, Kath, and please keep coding.

Hardy · #14 08-12-2002, 04:02 AM

I agree Trump, if they just help, these kinds of threads would not be created, here is how the conversation could go:

Newbie: HEY GUYS IM NEW TOO TEH EMU CAN I BECUM UBEER!
EQEmu: No, to become uber you need to create your own server, or join someone elses with enough priviliges so you can.
Newbie: How do I create my own server?
EQEmu: Read the readme located at www.blahblah.com, if you have any questions, come back to chat.
Newbie: Thank you

Was that so hard? That is how to stop all threads, like this one, from forming. Some people want to learn, and the only way of learning is to ask questions not just read a damn readme.

khuong · #15 08-13-2002, 02:14 AM

ya...
kathgar should be nicer.
what a asshat eh?

LOL

who the hell would make a topic to flame kathgar? :P dumb asssssssssssssssssssses