Starting work on Seeds of Destruction

[Dinggo]

This is what I was affraid of though. All the servers are now considering alternate login servers since Rogean is dragging his feet on this. The reason this project is really stable is that it was always centralized arond one login, a place where Devlopers and Users alike congregated. This showed the project was alive and growing at all times.

Once everyone moves to its own login servers, there will really be a big void opened up. Imo it would do alot more harm then good to not keep things centralized arond one common denominator.

I just dont understand why this isnt done yet, it took the other servers a few moments to adjust their own logins to accept SOD. Rogean is risking alot more servers moving to offsite logins which would in the end be bad for the overall project.

[gaeorn]

Originally Posted by Dinggo

This is what I was affraid of though. All the servers are now considering alternate login servers since Rogean is dragging his feet on this. The reason this project is really stable is that it was always centralized arond one login, a place where Devlopers and Users alike congregated. This showed the project was alive and growing at all times.

Once everyone moves to its own login servers, there will really be a big void opened up. Imo it would do alot more harm then good to not keep things centralized arond one common denominator.

I just dont understand why this isnt done yet, it took the other servers a few moments to adjust their own logins to accept SOD. Rogean is risking alot more servers moving to offsite logins which would in the end be bad for the overall project.

This is why the new multi-login code I wrote requires one to login to a trusted game server via the main eqemulator.org login server to update the login info on alternate login servers. I did not want to cause division in the project, but I did want those who use SoD to have a way to log into their preferred game servers.

[trevius]

Yeah, I think the private/secondary Login Servers are actually a great addition to EQEmu and something that has been needed for a very long time. I am definitely against dividing this project, as it does not need to be spread thinner than it is. But, I think the multiplle LS stuff will only strengthen EQEmu. Having to use other Login Servers to access servers from the SoD client is only temporary I am sure. At least until the official EQEmu LS is updated for it. And once it is, the extra Login Servers will make nice backups for when the official one is down, which is awesome. We are no longer 100% reliant on a single point of failure, which is good. Not that the official LS fails very often (because it is very stable), but just that it is good to have a backup when one is needed!

This thread isn't really meant for this particular discussion though.

In news related to this thread, I have added the HP formulas for SoD to the SVN They aren't 100% perfect yet, but they are much closer than before and probably only need minor tweaking to be perfect. I still have to add the Mana and Endurance formulas, but plan to try to get those added tonight.

[Zandig]

Originally Posted by trevius

In news related to this thread, I have added the HP formulas for SoD to the SVN They aren't 100% perfect yet, but they are much closer than before and probably only need minor tweaking to be perfect. I still have to add the Mana and Endurance formulas, but plan to try to get those added tonight.

Very nice Trev!
I had a look at rev 1395 with the SOD client and my Iksar monk's hitpoints now reach 100% (instead of hovering between 80 and 81). Looking forward to the endurance and mana.

Work on SOD is coming along excellent.
New PEQ database released!
Today is a good day

[trevius]

I have the Mana and Endurance formulas on my test server and they are almost finished. I think they just need a bit more tweaking to get them to align properly all of the time. They should most likely be on the SVN by tomorrow

[AngelKnight]

Using SoD on PEQ server, hit points are now showing properly (go up to 100%). Mana/End still doing same as they did, which, of course, is to be expected. VERY well done everyone involved on the formulas!

Trev, in relation to the 9th spell slot issue I ran into at level 58, I have yet to have this problem re-appear. I have ding'd 62 recently, died a BUNCH of times in between (6 times today alone, lol), and not once did the extra slot show up again. So, I am going to have to conclude that it was a fluke and is un-reproducable, so feel free to take it off of your list of things to look at.

I shall keep my eye on the spell casting bar jic it happens again, but I have a feeling it's not going to, LOL.

Thanks to everyone for the great (and quick!!) work getting SoD client working.

[trevius]

Ok, the HP/Mana/Endurance formulas are now all as good as I can get them and they are all on the SVN. The HP formula is accurate and at most it will only be off by 1 for certain levels/stats combos. It is always 1 over, so HPs should always show 100% on the client. The Mana and Endurance formulas were more complicated for certain Level/Stats combinations. I was able to get them accurate up to level 60 for any stat value, and up to level 80 for stats under 200. But, if you are 60+ and have over 200+ stats, some combos will have 7 to 15ish more mana on the server-side than what the client shows. I am sure it is just missing some minor detail or needing to round something that it isn't, but I tried and tried and couldn't get them 100% accurate for every combo. At least they are very close and by the time it starts being off at all, the number of mana/endurance added won't even be barely noticeable. When the Mana/End formulas are off, it is always higher on the server-side, so players will always still be able to have 100% showing on their UI, which was my main goal.

Maybe at some point, I will try to look into the Mana/End formulas again and get them fixed, but it probably wouldn't happen any time soon. Since they are on the SVN now, if anyone wants to test them out and play with the formulas to see if they can figure it out, please do! I will be happy to answer any questions I can if someone else wants to give a shot at making them closer to 100% accurate. Though, for now, I think they are definitely good enough, even if they never got messed with again.

I also set the default size of NPCs to 6, so if they are set to 0 in the DB, they will now be set to 6. This is because SOE added in default sizes for many races, when in the past, their default size was 6. So, without this fix, you would see some NPCs that are not the size you may have seen them as in previous clients.

Now, to figure out what I am going to work on next. I am probably going to look into a few more of the bug reports and see if I can get those resolved. There isn't really a ton of work left to do to complete SoD, and that rocks