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i was thinking of Lower Blackburrow where the gnolls make black burrow stout and anyone interested in helping me on project? 
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		Possible to make a new zone? 
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Is it likely you are going to make a new zone? 
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		Anyone is free to distribute a new zone as long as you do not use any of SoE's proprietary/copy righted data in doing so.  If you start from scratch and make your own zone file, then I *think* you would be free to distribute it.  SoE can't do a thing about someone distributing files titled foo.s3d, if you didnt steal any of their copyrighted material in doing so. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		You'd have to use your own models, artwork, etc. 
 
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		File formats can't be copyrighted or patented, period. If you reverse engineer it WITHOUT looking at their code or disassemling their program, it's 100% legal. You can even dissect files of the same type (i.e. other .s3d files). 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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 Damn ironic, considering less specific crap has been recently copyrighted that should never have been allowed.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		actually if you didnt know, SoE had to buy the rights to use mp3s in EverQuest :P 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		:p its not like they dont have enough money to buy everyone hookers, they are money hungry asses. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		With regard to mp3, the file format isn't the issue. It's the Fraunhofer codec. The compression algorithm is patented, NOT the file format. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		and how hard would it be to figure out how they created the zones?    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		yea i was wondering how hard it would be to build you own lvl is all a good point..not like im trying to dist it or anything i just want to learn about lvl building and programing ..been into computer repair too long not makeing and money at it like to learn something new. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		they were made with 3d studios max i heard but theres something about them that makes them special.  
 
i.e: something that you need so it will work with EQ. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Perhaps I am foolish in thinking this...but, If you can make a program to read in the zones then display them on the screen...what prevents someone from writing a new zone if they know how to read it already? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		im guessing they need to know the info that makes them run. All the special info involved. 
 
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		They use a plug-in for 3d Studio Max called 'Real3d' or something for zone layout. Ive tried to get ahold of it a couple years back when I first learned of it but its hard to find. Somebody out there must know something about it. They might not even use it anymore. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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