EQ damage mitigation equation

[a_Guest03]

I think there are a series of tables and offsets. Finding every table will be hard :(

[a_Guest03]

Only Defense, and AGI are active skills/stats for these characters if no other skills are listed. To gain more data, I took screenshots of my character stats and skills at times when he was so injured that his AGI (and thus his AC) went down.

The Gnome Rogue and the Troll Warrior are on the same AC/defense schedule. The Mage skips ahead some on its schedule.

Gnome Rogue Level 1 Defense 0 AGI 105 AC 17
Troll Warrior Level 1 Defense 0 AGI 105 AC 17
Troll Warrior Level 2 Defense 1 AGI 105 AC 18
Dark Elf Mage Level 1 Defense 2 AGI 105 AC 22
Troll Warrior Level 2 Defense 2 AGI 105 AC 21
Troll Warrior Level 2 Defense 3 AGI 105 AC 24
Dark Elf Mage Level 2 Defense 3 AGI 105 AC 24
Gnome Rogue Level 3 Defense 3 AGI 105 AC 24
Gnome Rogue Level 3 Defense 4 AGI 105 AC 27
Troll Warrior Level 2 Defense 4 AGI 105 AC 27
Troll Warrior Level 3 Defense 5 AGI 105 AC 28
Dark Elf Mage Level 2 Defense 5 AGI 105 AC 29
Troll Warrior Level 3 Defense 6 AGI 105 AC 31
Troll Warrior Level 3 Defense 7 AGI 105 AC 34
Gnome Rogue Level 3 Defense 8 AGI 105 AC 36
Dark Elf Mage Level 2 Defense 8 AGI 105 AC 38
Troll Warrior Level 3 Defense 9 AGI 105 AC 40
Dark Elf Mage Level 2 Defense 9 AGI 105 AC 41
Troll Warrior Level 3 Defense 10 AGI 105 AC 41
Troll Warrior Level 4 Defense 10 AGI 105 AC 41
Dark Elf Mage Level 3 Defense 10 AGI 105 AC 43
Dark Elf Mage Level 3 Defense 11 AGI 105 AC 46
Troll Warrior Level 4 Defense 11 AGI 105 AC 43
Troll Warrior Level 4 Defense 11 AGI 52 AC 25
Troll Warrior Level 4 Defense 12 AGI 105 AC 47
Gnome Rogue Level 4 Defense 12 AGI 105 AC 47
Gnome Rogue Level 4 Defense 12 AGI 52 AC 29
Dark Elf Mage Level 3 Defense 13 AGI 105 AC 51
Gnome Rogue Level 4 Defense 13 AGI 105 AC 49
Troll Warrior Level 4 Defense 13 AGI 105 AC 49
Gnome Rogue Level 4 Defense 13 AGI 52 AC 31
Gnome Rogue Level 5 Defense 14 AGI 78 AC 44
Gnome Rogue Level 5 Defense 14 AGI 105 AC 50
Troll Warrior Level 4 Defense 14 AGI 105 AC 50
Gnome Rogue Level 5 Defense 15 AGI 105 AC 54
Troll Warrior Level 4 Defense 15 AGI 105 AC 54
Gnome Rogue Level 5 Defense 16 AGI 78 AC 50
Gnome Rogue Level 5 Defense 16 AGI 105 AC 56
Troll Warrior Level 4 Defense 16 AGI 105 AC 56
Troll Warrior Level 4 Defense 17 AGI 105 AC 59
Troll Warrior Level 4 Defense 17 AGI 78 AC 53
Gnome Rogue Level 5 Defense 18 AGI 52 AC 44
Gnome Rogue Level 5 Defense 18 AGI 78 AC 56
Gnome Rogue Level 5 Defense 18 AGI 105 AC 62
Troll Warrior Level 5 Defense 18 AGI 105 AC 62
Gnome Rogue Level 6 Defense 18 AGI 52 AC 44
Gnome Rogue Level 6 Defense 18 AGI 78 AC 56
Gnome Rogue Level 6 Defense 18 AGI 105 AC 62
Gnome Rogue Level 6 Defense 19 AGI 78 AC 57
Gnome Rogue Level 6 Defense 19 AGI 105 AC 63
Gnome Rogue Level 6 Defense 20 AGI 105 AC 66
Gnome Rogue Level 6 Defense 21 AGI 52 AC 51
Gnome Rogue Level 6 Defense 21 AGI 78 AC 63
Gnome Rogue Level 6 Defense 21 AGI 105 AC 69
Troll Warrior Level 5 Defense 22 AGI 78 AC 66
Troll Warrior Level 5 Defense 23 AGI 105 AC 73
Gnome Rogue Level 6 Defense 23 AGI 52 AC 55
Gnome Rogue Level 6 Defense 23 AGI 78 AC 67
Gnome Rogue Level 6 Defense 23 AGI 105 AC 73
Gnome Rogue Level 6 Defense 24 AGI 105 AC 76
Gnome Rogue Level 6 Defense 24 AGI 105 Dodge 23 AC 76
Gnome Rogue Level 6 Defense 24 AGI 105 Dodge 31 AC 76
Troll Warrior Level 5 Defense 26 AGI 105 AC 81
Troll Warrior Level 5 Defense 27 AGI 105 AC 85
Troll Warrior Level 5 Defense 28 AGI 105 AC 86
Troll Warrior Level 6 Defense 29 AGI 105 AC 88
Troll Warrior Level 6 Defense 29 AGI 105 Dodge 6 AC 88
Troll Warrior Level 6 Defense 29 AGI 105 Dodge 19 AC 88
Troll Warrior Level 6 Defense 29 AGI 105 Dodge 20 AC 88
Troll Warrior Level 6 Defense 29 AGI 105 Dodge 21 AC 88
Troll Warrior Level 6 Defense 29 AGI 105 Dodge 30 AC 88
Screenshots exist for this data.

[Grummet]

Was incorrect in my Dodge skill... it is at 230, not 225.

Grummet

[Purcevil]

So, is it your desire to get a bottom and top and then make a reasonable approximation formula with offsets for class/race, rather than a 100% compatible with live?

Just checking.

[a_Guest03]

I'm saying that we may have to break the AC into chunks based on levels, and approximate. I really doubt a duplicate of AC can be made without seeing the source.

Using only 2 variables, with one constant (AGI) and the second incrementing by small values, I really don't see how rate of change can move from 1 to 3 to 2. It almost makes me wonder if EQ uses an approximation of a formula :P

The way I see it is that 99% of eqemu'rs won't be able to tell the difference anyway. Let's get this close by getting a lot of data, and forcing a series of best-fit lines based on the variables we can approximate. We can first approximate one variable's effect, then approximate the next, then build up from there.

killspree is working a dark elf rogue up the ranks with dodge and parry, and I'm doing a gnome rogue without dodge or parry. If we could get data of a third class rogue with dodge but not parry, then we could probably BS an equation for those skills for rogues. If we test it on another parrying class, and we get something close, we keep those skill approximates. We lock them in, incorrect as they are, and keep approximating data effects until we have wrong, albeit close, data produced.

[Purcevil]

works for me, just making sure.

btw, I do agree that it seems VI fudged a lot of this, or there are some pretty whacked equations with bizarre modifiers.

[a_Guest03]

Work/school/girlfriend are eating away at my free time. Progress is moving very slowly right now. If anyone would like to attempt to process the information posted or would like emailed raw information that I have, just ask here or in PM.

[a_Guest03]

Bump, posted more data in an above post.

Also, this is my 500th post!! Yaaaaay!

Looking at the data between the 2 similar classes at those levels, you see that level really isn't a factor, and that dodge isn't a factor as well. I hear that level 7 creates a new table. I will investigate that claim and post when I level them up.