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06-24-2003, 04:54 PM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,175
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The simple fact is, they have little grounds to stand on. Writing your own server to interact with their client is 100% legal. End of story. If anything, trying to stop you from creating an interoperable product constitutes restraint of trade and I'm tempted to call it an antitrust violation. Inkjet companies are in hot water right now over such behavior (the practice of chipping their ink cartridges). Many other companies have been sued and lost when they go too far in trying to lock other people out. SOE can't stop you from interacting with their client any more than Microsoft can prevent someone from making a Microsoft Word add-on. It's flat-out illegal for them to do so.
Pirating is illegal, but creating your server software isn't pirating. Packet collecting may or may not be--it's something I've never been happy with, hence my desire to see original content created from scratch (including zones, models, etc.) As far as the PoP expansion, I was one of the loudest voices saying to TAKE IT DOWN.
As far as their EULA goes, they can deny you service by banning your accounts and that's it. Anything after that requires negotiation, since the usage agreement has terminated. IMHO you are perfectly free to wipe the EULA, say you *don't* agree to it, and they can go pound sand. Remember, you *paid* for your client.
I think we need to push hard for creating original content. The Admin Tool and OpenZone are my efforts to make this happen, but it's going to be a long road...
$0.02
WC
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06-25-2003, 07:13 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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I do believe
I do believe the other term instead of using "Pirating" would be, uhhh, piggybacking?? We are "kinda" getting on the back of their system and creating an emulator, we are not doing anything to it :twisted: , but we are using it cause its legal!!! 
EVERYONE CHEER HOGIE, TRUMPCARD, SHAWN, and whoever was involved with "The Project"!
But then again, we are really not piggybacking, cause we're using our own servers, so what we really are doing is piggybacking the GAME itself. ITS TOTALLY LEGAL!!! WOOOOHOOO!!!
(note to self, next time, less humor, more to the point)
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06-25-2003, 07:13 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2
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boohooo
And how come i cant get lil' orange monkey butts under my name, i think it is cute hehehehee.
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06-25-2003, 07:14 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2
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monrrezz
Monrezz has like 42, why cant i have some, boohoo! :cry: , lol jk DONT SHOOT ME!!!!!!!
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06-25-2003, 07:51 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,693
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I don't even have the brown ones!
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06-25-2003, 11:24 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 45
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wow uber crazyness, look what obeo caused
eh man im 12 who cares man EQemu was like the best thing I ever discovered since reg EQ I like it the way it is. and since I am Paitient and responsible and I respect the DEVS, I got to be a GM to a few servers, now because of that, many players know me as a nice guy (I hope  ) but still man dont snitch on us just because its not the way you like it, if you dont like it then dont play it man just go play EQ or some shit like that. I dont wait my time complaining that this game sucks(And I dont think that) but man just dont play :!: |
06-25-2003, 11:26 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 45
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Re: wow uber crazyness, look what obeo caused
delete this thread hehe whoops
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06-25-2003, 12:43 PM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,073
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/me cheers for shawn =P
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06-26-2003, 04:39 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2
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Bohoooo
Booo, I want orange monkey butts! Lol, or just one? Dont make me cut off one of yours shawn, cause u wont give me any lol. i want a monkey butt, hey i know! Thats wut i'll call my new guild, the Monkey-Butt People's FRONT!
WHOS WITH ME?? :!: ??? :!: ??? :!: ??
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