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09-13-2004, 02:39 PM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Originally Posted by sotonin
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if anyone wants to host it, I will give you top-access
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haha. well if they are hosting it, they can TAKE highest access, regardless of if you wanted to give it. =)
You aren't going to be able to make a good server unless you drop the cash and get a dedicated server. The best you're likely to get is somebody on their dsl/cable *possibly* t1. if anybody. but i doubt you'll get any volunteers. |
And I doubt if you arent running a dedicated server you arent going to make it to Legends or Preferred (Green).
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namespace retval { template <class T> class ReturnValueGen { private: T x; public: ReturnValueGen() { x = 0; }; T& Generator() { return x; }; }; } int main() { retval::ReturnValueGen<int> retvalue; return retvalue.Generator(); }
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09-13-2004, 03:48 PM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Well then, for now, we will have someone just hosting it on there home comp. When it goes up for testing, we will get a dedicated SC24 Server hopefully, which is 524 megs a second =). Probably cost about $1000 a month, but, I will be able to make that in one day if I can get a CD up, just need to work, hehe. I can actually make that really easily, that is if the CD's are extremely cheap, lol. Probably $2000 a day if I try hard enough =/.
But, everyone, I have this all under control, kk, we will have a Dedicated Server Host. I can't hots it on my comp becuz my connection does not have the bandwith, unless I try and by a 100 meg Broadband Connection, which will probably be about $20,000. Then I can try and buy a really nice servr and host it myself =D. It will be about 1 Meg a second for download time, otherwise, almost SC12 speed, which is a 122 meg line.
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09-13-2004, 04:15 PM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: May 2004
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Dude. just rent a dedicated server at a datacenter for 200-400 a month. wtf u talking about all this $1000 stuff. You don't need to build your own datacenter or upgrade your home internet.
That's what datacenters are for. they are connected to multiple internet backbones and can provide pretty much limitless bandwidth.
Also, wtf is SC12 and SC24. google doesnt show anything for them, i think you mean OC12 and OC24 ? Those are WAY out of any consumer's grasp. much more than 1000 or even $20,000
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09-13-2004, 04:24 PM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Yes, OC, hmm. I am hoping to get a host with one, atleast a DS3 or T3 line for the host, lol
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09-13-2004, 04:27 PM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: May 2004
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Most datacentres are hooked up to MULTIPLE OC connections straight to the internet backbones.
a 155mbs connection starts around $30,000 a month just so you know.
a t-1 1.555mbs starts at about 400-800 a month.
Why waste the money on a hardcore connection when you can have it hosted remotely for like 200-400 and have a connection 10x better. If you get it at a good datacenter you have huge bandwidth resources at your disposal.
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09-14-2004, 01:31 AM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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I wasn't buying the connection, that is what the remote host would have on one of the sites. I can't buy one of those connections where I live, best I can get is 100 meg which I am planning on getting anyways. The thing to buy the connetion will probably be 2 or 3 grand, but free per month because we have the Repeater and stuff on our house so that other houses can get wireless broadband =).
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09-14-2004, 03:01 PM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: May 2004
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Dude i regret to tell you that you do not understand what you are trying to do. Your useing big words trying to make people thing you understand whats going on. If you can make $1000 a day then get off your lazy ass and do it but if your not makeing that much now, and your planning on starting this collosal server with 60,000+ zone a new LoginServer, A new client that patches when you start eq, and many other things you mentioned then you better get started. The basic thing is you cant have both. And chances are if when you were working on my server with me i had to correct About every quest file you gave me and you plan on working on a loginserver? Also are you not in Highschool? I think thats what you told me before. I could be wrong. Bottom line is this is too much work for you to do you dont even know where to start. And if you pan on haveing 60,000 zones You better have a nice computer to look through your Very large Database.... and i mean very large.
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09-14-2004, 03:53 PM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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I didn't say 60,000..... Also, I now have a program that will make it so I can correct my own code and I don't have to send it to others, ok. Don't worry, I have everything figured out. No one thinks I can do this, but I can. I said in the beginning that the server will probably be ready for Testers next year, the Beta Version. This is a very long-term project. Right now, we are doing the basics, such as, trying to get a site up, getting some of the introductions done, working with login-server, as well as other things. I am going through the source code and adding new commands as well as changing GM Commands, and changing GM Ranks. I believe me and my staff can do this, as long as they are up for a very large project. I know I am up to it.
And yes, I am in High School. Most of us are in High School. Right now we are working very slowly on the project, little by little, bit by bit. At the end, we will have a very nice flash-website and all. Please guys, stop saying it is not possible for us all to do it =).
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09-14-2004, 05:05 PM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: May 2004
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Also, I now have a program that will make it so I can correct my own code and I don't have to send it to others
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sorry but that sentence is very very humorous.
BTW. you are putting the cart before the horse. You need to concentrate on actually GETTING a server and actually MAKING it different from the 30 other stock servers out there. Not on some lore story and fancy flash intro.
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09-14-2004, 05:11 PM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Sailing Across the Ocean
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[quote="sotonin"]
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concentrate on actually GETTING a server and actually MAKING it different from the 30 other stock servers out there.
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i know how to do that, make it PVP!!!!!!!!
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09-15-2004, 12:34 AM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Chambersburg, PA
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Ok, this is just hilarious.
Deimos: Stop thinking you know everything. For that matter, stop thinking you know anything. Once you do that, your ego will go down, and you'll be able to actually learn something.
That said, time to make you feel like an ass. (not sure if I can do a better job than sotonin and the rest of the gang though... they're pretty talented)
First, T3 == DS-3.
Second, a 100Mbit/s burstable connection with unmetered bandwidth will run you around $25k/month with a 2+ year contract. The lowest you'll get is a 6 month contract, and you'll probably pay between $35k and 45k/month, so I think you need to massively scale down your ideas there.
Third, how are you affording any of this if you're in highschool? An afterschool job? If so, how will you put time into the project?
Fourth, if you were making an LS, you would've posted it already. It's a very simple procedure in essence, and you'd get at least a bit of credit from people here if you released one.
It may seem like everyone is telling you that you won't be able to do this, but you need to take the comments in a more constructive fashion. A lot of your problem is that you feign knowledge at every turn; it's causing you to look like a total idiot. If you spent less time talking about what you know and more time asking questions you'd be in a much better position in the community. (Supposing you ask good questions
Happy Hacking,
Lord Daeken M. BlackBlade
(Cody Brocious)
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09-15-2004, 07:12 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Heaven.
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The Path of Chaos Server
GM-Impossible
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(Bolded for Emphasis(sp))
Sorry, I just had to laugh.
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namespace retval { template <class T> class ReturnValueGen { private: T x; public: ReturnValueGen() { x = 0; }; T& Generator() { return x; }; }; } int main() { retval::ReturnValueGen<int> retvalue; return retvalue.Generator(); }
C++ is wonderful.
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09-15-2004, 07:39 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: May 2004
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being GM-Impossible on a non-existant server is teh win
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09-15-2004, 08:27 AM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: May 2004
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Sure it is, i wouldnt know though i've only heard stories of such success.
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09-15-2004, 09:59 AM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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It exists, in my head =P, and in my staff =). Also, I wont be GM-Impossible soon, I will be a Spirit of Seven probably, one of the Custom GM Ranks I am doing =D, with "Custom" Commands as well =).
But ya, I put that because we are going to make the server, hehe. So, I am a GM-Impossible atm on a non-existant server =). This is my way, =P. Also, this way, everyone knows what ranks they are going to be on the server =D.
Also, for daekkan, I am asking questions when I am not sure about something, and I am not releasing any of the source or examples for a bit =). The questions are not on the forums though.
Ty for the input though
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