Lucid Zek server ... not by SOE and not EQemu?

[Misunderstood]

Um wow. Maybe i should try to clear a few things up.

LV has been in the killing business for years, and in many games. EQ, DAoC, SB, Planetside, etc. We love PvP. We played as a guild on GW, but when it became apparent that there was GM Corruption we spoke out, and were criticized, called liars, and banned from the server. devn00b told us to prove it, and we provided the PROOF. Then told us to "F"-off and make our own "Effin" server. So we did. I'd be lying if I said there wasn't some bad blood between us (always liked image tho) but the n00b was a pain. Our guild abandoned GW and myself an ex-Microsoft developer, and a guildmate who is a CS major at CalPoly decided to take devn00b up on the challenge and make our own custom pvp server. We've had fun doing it and appreciate the work the eqemu team has put into the project.

We planned on being part of this community and held no grudges. Made a ton of fixes to the code. The day before we planned on releasing full group fixes among other fixes, Stenky (the other LV Emu dev) was banned from public Login server (not GW, Login server).

Not only did he ban our server from eqemulator login, but publicly posted on our boards that the day it went up he would personally trash it. Turns out he had already handed out our emu login name/pass to people like Harney and his friends when our 'closed beta' server was hosted on your emulator login. devn00b and his friends also attempted to HACK our website many times with SQL injections but failed.

Thats about the time we wiped our hands clean of anything related to eqemu. We never /ooc spammed ads for our server on GW. Our website gets over 1 million hits a month (we've made alot of friends and enemies over the years) and had no desire to take thier players or announce our intentions on thier server. Those were disgruntled GW players doing that which we had about as much control over as we do the weather.

As for the EQCrypto - with a little help from an unnamed EQIM trillian plug-in developer we got it. In fact have a C# version, but it's unstable as hell, so we went with a customized minilogin (using a forum login/MD5 encrypted pass/IP/ASP/Anti-Spoof) solution. I'm surprized how well it runs actually.

Now that devn00b has left the eqEmu team, i don't see why we wouldn't release our FIXES to the emulator community when we feel its ready for prime time. To be frank, we are still leary of using the Emulators Login server. We've actually given our source code to two Emulator server owners so they can have our fixes. We have over 690 registerd Open Beta testers, and the hardware/bandwith to handle them. I think we'll be knocking many more bugs out - as our desire has only been to have a 'balanced' and fun EQ pvp server.

RexChaos - you're a good guy and overly helpful. Thanks for the kind words and your database help.

I guess thats all I have to say on the matter. At the risk of being accused of "advertising" again, I'll end this post (assuming it doesn't get deleted ... most of our previous posts have been deleted by devn00b and our eqemu forum accounts banned).


Ghecko
Lucid Vision Emu Developer
Jesus Loves You!

[Scoops]

First off i want to say Ghecko is GOD and second of all i could not agree more, i have been wateing for a server like Lucid-Vision PvP server where people log on to have a good time and just about anything goes (3rd Party Progs is the only big thing besides EXPLOITING) but LV pVp server shows what a PvP server should be like, Third and Last, i would give my life to save any of the LV Server dev team in a life or death situation!

- Im done here, the rest of my posts will be on the LV pvp borads where my natural habitat is,

- <3 Lucid-Vision!

- aka ShadowNoobie on LV boards!

[RexChaos]

Thanks Ghecko. Any time you need some help you just holla! Best of luck with the server. Don't let any fucktards try to steer you wrong.

[kirban1]

Owned.

Long live Gecko~

devn00b and his friends also attempted to HACK our website many times with SQL injections but failed.

This is the sad part. I knew the n00b was an idiot but I didnt think he was THAT currupt. Glad he's gone, maybe GW will be a better place from now on.

[DataMan4971]

Awwwww, Dev used to be my friend...

oh well,,, you act like a fucktard, you lose....

[Kambic]

Out of curiosity, was dev in any way related to delvahart hehe

[Edgar1898]

I dont know all that happened between you guys and dev, so I wont point fingers at anyone and judge anyone else without knowing all the facts. I am a little irritated about the fact that the original message contained a link that said the server was not affiliated with eqemu. Although you might have a different defination than I do, I consider any server that is based on code that I and the other developers have written for the eqemu project to be affiliated with the project. Unfortunately whatever transpired between you and devn00b has set us with a negative image. Your making a pvp server with eqemu based code, which is great, hopefully it will last as long as the administrators wish and the players will enjoy it. I have looked at the ruleset and it does seem to be a nice server, hell I might even play on it. But please dont let what happened between you and devn00b set a bad rep for the project. Although devn00b represents the project, I wouldnt expect or want everyone to start hating the entire project if I myself were to get in a fight with a server admin. I would expect people (maybe too much to ask) to realize that projects are made up of groups of individuals with very different personalities. The actions of one person shouldnt turn people away from the project. Anyways back to my point, please dont say your server isnt affiliated with eqemu, because its a slap in the face to every developer that has worked countless hours working on the code. Since your server is based on our code, it is (by my definition) affiliated with us.

[killspree]

I'd just like to make it clear that my post was in no means an attack on the quality of server Lucid Visions is running. I just simply had to defend the great project EQEMU is, because it's definitely the top emulator out there for EverQuest.

You guys have a good looking server starting up, and I wish you luck. I might even play on it some when I get the time.

[Stenky]

I understand where you are coming from Lethal. I also respect your work very much; calling you anything short of a genius would be a mistake.

That post on the SK site referenced above was not made by any developer of the LV server. Please do not take it as a slap in the face, when someone that doesnt work on our project posts something inaccurate.

However,

I can see where that poster came from in saying we are not affiliated with EQemu. Regardless of where your definition of the word "affiliated" stands, people will be more apt to use it in its dictionary sense:

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[Edgar1898]

I didnt take offense to it, just a little irritated because I thought the original poster got his information directly from the server admins and developers. I was never mad about it, I just didnt know the official position of your team. It was not my intention to piss anyone off, I wanted to set things straight between us. I hope you guys wont hold a grudge against the project, and I hope we can all work together towards the downfall of SOE! :P Anyways I have to get working on this login stuff (which btw sony is stupid for not encrypting any information, including the passwd). All someone has to do is write a simple sniffer and put it on a universities network to grab a crap load of accounts.

[Kambic]

Just a P.S. from a GW1 player:

Lethal owns

[Swampdog]

Originally Posted by Kambic

Just a P.S. from a GW1 player:

Lethal owns

You have just increased your skill in brown-nosing!

heheh /ducks and hides

[Scoops]

Lethal made GuildWars what it is by name and by game, devn00b shit on it and made it torture to play, i was like when you logged on to GW you logged into HELL, i was he ego that made it bad, if not for dev's ego then the server would have been AWSOME, he thought he was god because he created a database, and "HELPED" run one of EQEmu's best servers, and yes btw i said yes helped.

thats my 10 cents

devn00b attitude has no effect on the way i looked and will look at the EQEmu dev team i think what you guys have done is a awsome feat in Emu history, I would like to say thank you to all the EQEmu Dev team (except devn00b).!!

[Edgar1898]

heh nah image was the original creator of guildwars, I just took it over for a few months after he shut it down the first time.

[Zemekes]

I'm the one who posted that on the SK boards, i'm just a normal eq player who has been playing eqemu since i quit eqlive.... what i meant by saying not affiliated with EQemu was pretty much that you won't be finding it on the EQemu server select screen that is all, didn't mean to piss the makers off by saying it, i'm just a n00b who plays to much eq ><