Dev's are lame.

[Flame_storm]

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[khuong]

lol...

1. open source
2. we don't make $ off this
3. its open source
4. we don't make $ off this?

work ethics = read the 4 reason's above

^__^

[Scorpious2k]

Originally Posted by Flame_storm

I bet im gunna get banned for this, but it needs to be said.... Then they will probly delete this, anywho...

Not me...

#1 they release a shitty version of DR-4 where nothing works...

DR means developer's release.. not even beta. The reason it was released quickly was because people were begging for the emu to work with the current patch.

Yet, all their servers seem to work just fine?

You obviously haven't played on the S2K server or talked to the people who play there. I use our server for testing new code before it goes into cvs. If the code works, then from the time I put it in until the time it is merged with cvs and cvs is released there will be a difference...

And if it doesn't work, its our server crashing - not yours.

They do a half ass job on the Public Release then work on their own.

DR means developer's release, not public release.

I have been working on fixing this Huge problem you neglected to fix with DR4, but there are too many problems for me to fix.

but you expect a miracle from others...

I dont care how long it takes to make, take the extra time and do it right, you spend all your time on support, screw helping people, make it right then you wont have to.

and others say give it to us now and we will help you get it right.

Just make it right, fix your problems,

now its my problem/our problem. I thought this started out that YOUR server didn't work right

if i knew as much Programing as you, i would do it right,

if you knew anything about programming....

even if it took me a year to do it, at least i wouldnt have to waste my time on fixing the mistakes, its harder to go back and fix what u didnt do, rather than doing it all at once.

... you would know that 90% of the programmer's time is spent on maintenance

And flame the hell outta me if u want.

not needed. you've done more than enough damage to yourself and your own reputation (if you had one)

Thank you for your time.

And good luck to you in your career as a motivational speaker. You've certainly made me want to bust my tail getting this to work for you.

[Baron Sprite]

Seriously, Just make it right, fix your problems, if i knew as much Programing as you, i would do it right, even if it took me a year to do it, at least i wouldnt have to waste my time on fixing the mistakes, its harder to go back and fix what u didnt do, rather than doing it all at once.

if u knew as much programming as my big toe then you would know what you just said is fucking stupid.

It's a dev release dumbass. Sorry I forgot you don't know that "programing" stuff. Basically that means you get an alpha build of the next version. Right right no "programing". An alpha build is a pre-beta (beta is when testing is done) developer only release (hence the name developer release) that is a fucking privilege for you to get to use.

And since you failed to notice the fact that not only do the devs not make a dime off this shit, we have to pay to keep it running. You want bug free perfect releases? Play live or fund us. I charge around 65,000$ a year for full time "programing", so send me a baggy filled with cash or a certified check and I'll get you dr5 in flawless form.

Unlocking this topic so you can give me a brilliant response. Fuck I don't even know why I wasted time responding to this.

And yeah I'm gonna change your avatar, why? Because WOO, i can make Delphi programs, i am acting gay and doing a half ass job!

[Virus11]

Dear Dev Hater (flame_storm),
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you are lame. you motherfuckin ungrateful little bastard newbie. go play eqlive fuckin impatient little fuckin tard!!! if you werent a n00b you would know dr4 is the worst of all releases because of a big patch, if you ever played previous versions you wouldnt be fucking complainging. so before you nominate yourself to get banned, remember you fucking n00b, that you need to have a little patience and wait a fucking week so devs can fix your server.
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Sorry for any bad grammer, it just spilled out.

[Melancholy]

If you don't like the way things are going, then why don't you just... go away?

Nobody owes you anything, and I really doubt you'll be missed.

Oh and /wave everyone

[Nafeasonto]

Originally Posted by Flame_storm

I bet im gunna get banned for this, but it needs to be said.... Then they will probly delete this, anywho...

Here is the issue that i think make some of the Dev's lame:

#1 they release a shitty version of DR-4 where nothing works...

Yet, all their servers seem to work just fine?

Why is that?

They do a half ass job on the Public Release then work on their own.

I understand that they are all doing this for free, and they all have jobs outside of this, but a lil thing they should know by now, or at least i hope they should know is that: If your going to do something do it right.

I have been working on fixing this Huge problem you neglected to fix with DR4, but there are too many problems for me to fix.

I dont care how long it takes to make, take the extra time and do it right, you spend all your time on support, screw helping people, make it right then you wont have to.

Pretty Pathetic way to get attention if your lonely.
Seriously, Just make it right, fix your problems, if i knew as much Programing as you, i would do it right, even if it took me a year to do it, at least i wouldnt have to waste my time on fixing the mistakes, its harder to go back and fix what u didnt do, rather than doing it all at once.

Sorry, but that just mega-piss's me off that all you are releaseing a shit version and then just work on your own, makeing your own servers like live, and leaveing the rest of us with shit.

Every time you make a new version, it gets worse, what is DR5 gunna be textbased?

Realy......

i would like to know.

And flame the hell outta me if u want.

You can even ban me if you want, just dont delete or edit this post, let everyone see how i feel about your shitty work ethics.

Thanks for reading this, and hopefuly the Dev's will learn from this.

Thank your for putting the time in it you have, im not saying i dont appriciate your work, im trying to get the point into your head that you should just do the job right, especialy when no one has anything to fall back on like DR4, you have to patch, then when all DR4 server SUCK cuz of some things you decided not to fix...

Most of you are probably thinking why dont you just go play live, and the reason im not is: SONY is communist and im not givein emm my money. And im not gunna play a lame ass game when they nerf it every week.

Anywho...

Like i said, Ban me, Flame me, Spam my PM's or email, change my Avatar, i dont care anymore, Just let people see what i feel, let them see the truth im sick of you DEV's acting like your GODS cuz u can make a program...

WOO, i can make Delphi programs, am i acting gay and do a half ass job?
NO!!!

Thank you for your time.

Or they will ban you for no reason, like me. Infact, I hope they ban you like me.

[Dspirit]

Who was it that said DR = Dev release? cause that about sums it up Never expect a DR to be completely bug free. Then again if you believe it can and should be then maybe you need to click your shoes together harder.

[DeletedUser]

Please make constructive responses to show that we have more smarts than this guy

[DrPlump]

If you take a year to get it working dont you think sony would patch by then i know thast and im only 9...

[jammey97]

Originally Posted by Flame_storm

I have been working on fixing this Huge problem you neglected to fix with DR4, but there are too many problems for me to fix.

why not be a bit more constructive with your feedback and maybe make a list of bugs and/or errors and possible solutions.

If there are indeed 'too many problems' for you to fix, then post the patches for the problems you did manage to fix. Then the devs can skip those and fix the rest.

Just saying it all sucks and whining about it won't fix anything, and will probably ensure that you will never be helped in the future.

[Virus11]

jammey97? lmao nice name

#1 they release a shitty version of DR-4 where nothing works...

Yet, all their servers seem to work just fine?

Why is that

Well its shitty cause its a DR ( i think this has been covered enought) and because there smart enough to have a seperate EQ directory for the EMU so when SOE patched and breaks the EMU they can still play

They do a half ass job on the Public Release then work on their own.

As scorp say'd in an ealier post its called testing.

I dont care how long it takes to make, take the extra time and do it right, you spend all your time on support, screw helping people, make it right then you wont have to.

So that would be screw what everyone else want do what you want? cause 99% of the EMU community wants it NOW with bugs.

Pretty Pathetic way to get attention if your lonely.

your right I hope you dont do this much.

Seriously, Just make it right, fix your problems, if i knew as much Programing as you, i would do it right, even if it took me a year to do it, at least i wouldnt have to waste my time on fixing the mistakes, its harder to go back and fix what u didnt do, rather than doing it all at once.

So your gonna comment on how to do something that you have no clue how to do or how long it takes to do...hhmm and you expect them to do, in there free time, what has taken SOE what 7-8 years to acomplish?

Sorry, but that just mega-piss's me off that all you are releaseing a shit version and then just work on your own, makeing your own servers like live, and leaveing the rest of us with shit.

This right here tell me you have no clue what your talking about cause the bugs on one server are the bugs on another server, just read the forums and see how everyone has the same issues.

Every time you make a new version, it gets worse, what is DR5 gunna be textbased?

If thats what it takes to get the hundreds of posts flaming them for not having it out NOW to stop then yes. People dont want to wait to play and they dont have back up directories so they flame the bord, got to shut them up somehow.

when no one has anything to fall back on like DR4, you have to patch, then when all DR4 server SUCK cuz of some things you decided not to fix...

OH so you didnt create a backup copy ether huh? yea they suck but guess what.THATS WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS they want to be able to log on create a char and stand there. they would rather have that then waiting a few weeks for the bugs to be fixed.

All i see in your post is me me me me me, what about everyone else here? thats right more people put up a stink about not even being able to log on then about the bugs that are know so guess what........the Devs do what the COMMUNITY wants not what you want.


The Devs may be elitists, and darn right arses most of the time, but they run this this is there domain, they make the rules this is there little corner of the web where they ARE the gods. If you want to be part of the community you need to accept that. Just like on my web space I say what happens and if you dont like it fine dont come.

I wish the Devs would be nicer / more professional but the one thing anyone with a brain cant denie is there hard work and there own $ to run this project, so they do what they want and we nod and say ok or we go away.

[x-scythe]

mattmeck! whats up!

PS: why all the hate? be at peace my brother