Metallica

Merth · #1 07-27-2003, 04:42 PM

I consider myself to be a pretty big Metallica fan. I didn't even start listening to them until the mid 90's, yet I absolutely love their old stuff. So naturally, I ran out to check out their latest St. Anger album. Little did I know the magnitude of disappointment I would find.

This album ranks among the worst I have ever listened to - of any band. I haven't found single bit of the album worth listening to. I am nearly ashamed to call myself a Metallica fan. It's not that it lacks entertainment value - it is actually painful to listen to.

For me, a metal band should carry at least one of two "talents": good metal or a power voice. The ones that carry both are the really good ones - and Metallica certainly used to fall into that category. This latest album lacks both.

The power voice of Hetfield is gone. I no longer hear the raw energy in his voice. It's as though he started taking singing lessons and has lost the cutting edge he alone once held. His voice used to be so powerful and commanding. In this latest, his voice is just painful to listen to.

The metal is totally lacking as well. I am not a musician, so I don't know how to describe it with the right jargon.. But there's nothing catchy about the guitars in this one. There's no rhythm, no head banging moments, nothing. It's more like a bunch of guitars that showed up in a studio for a tuning session.

When it comes to metal, I think I have a pretty broad range of music that I would consider good. It's hard to find music that I actually don't like. Therefore, it's a really big statement when I find something that sucks. So it's really disappointing to say that Metallica finally falls into this category.

St. Anger SUCKS!

Farrenz · #2 07-27-2003, 05:27 PM

All I can say is...sellouts.

Their old stuff is godly, but this new album is agreeably crap. I would have returned this album if Sam Goody would take refunds.

Its been all down hill since the black album.

Make a note: Save the $15 and go buy your self a RATM album.

Trumpcard · #3 07-28-2003, 12:05 AM

1st off, coming from an ex professional musician (ok, I didnt make a million doing it, but it paid the rent and the car payment), there is no such thing as a sellout... Its a really stupid term that makes no sense... Who the hell wants no one to like them and for people to NOT appreciate their work???

As soon as a band changes there sound a little and tries to move in a new direction, all the fans start screaming 'SELLOUTS'... What exactly does that mean anyway? You've made a little template for what my music is supposed to be , and if I don't follow it, and my sounds don't sound EXACTLY like the last album, i'm a sellout. Do you know how boring it is playing the same style, the same sound OVER and OVER and OVER again is, and these guys have been doing it for better than 20 years now, don't you think some actual growth as musicians should occur?

I heard the EXACT same stupid comments when the metallica Black album came out. It didnt sound anything like 'And Justice for all', so all the hardcore Metallica fans starting yelling 'Sellouts'.. Same thing with Load and Reload, then again when they did 'Garage Days 2' and the Album with the orchestra.

Who exactly did they sellout to?? Its not like they're doing NSync songs. St. Anger sounds more like their earlier stuff than any of their last 4 albums if you ask me, but still they're sellouts?

Sorry Im raving about this, but people screaming 'sellout' EVERY SINGLE TIME a new album comes out really gets on my nerves, and it doesnt make any sense. By that argument, a band is only true to it's form if they write in 1 vein of music only, and never sway from that pattern at all. If you ask me, that would make for some shitty music. Just as people mature when they get older, so do bands. They change, they have children, they mature, and their music styles and tastes change.

Someone called our band a sellout when we started writing better songs and alot more people started coming to our shows. What use was their in writing shitty songs that no-one likes or wants to hear?? If you want to write your own music to fulfill your own musical desires, theres not really any point in ever playing outside your bedroom. This is a job for those guys, not a hobby. Everyone wants to be good, and to be successful at what they do..

I don't really like the album either, but I don't like the ignornace inherent in the use of the word 'sellout' even more!!! (Not attacking you personaly, that word just really annoys me)

And how could you not call RATM sellouts if you really feel that way?? There new stuff doesnt sound ANYTHING like their old stuff, and they got Chris Cornell for god's sake! LOL.. THats like Public Enemy getting Julio Igalesias as a front man!

DeletedUser · #4 07-28-2003, 12:35 AM

I don't really think its just 'sellout'.
Its america, its the new millenium.. these are what we kids have turned into.

SELL OUT! :P

As for sell out, I think your right. Sell out is probably one of the stupidest things i've ever hea... [ sits in the IRC channel and changes his mind ]

Goauld · #5 07-28-2003, 09:51 PM

I actually think St Anger is the best they've done since the Black album. JMO

If you ask me, they've just evolved a little. No more big solo's, more a case of riff-rock and it works fer me.

Now an album full of cover versions.....thats a sell-out ;P

Terminal Delta · #6 07-29-2003, 12:42 AM

I like Metallica myself, I can play almost all there riffs on my guitar( Hell Im almost like Hendrix...)

As for the new album. Is not bad.. but I say they just should of kept on going as garage INCs direction.
They sound they're trying to be thrash metal with heavy metal. Which doesnt much work....

I do agree St.Anger isn't the greatest, but it did get platinum XP

Metallica is a metal band. No greater.. no less. I think they were just experimenting though..

a_Guest03 · #7 07-29-2003, 05:16 AM

My girlfriend works at a CD store, and listens to music day in and day out. She likes all kinds of music, and Metallica is on that list as well. She HATES this new album. She makes fun of Lars' inability to play anything worth a damn. She said it's just awful. Coming from her, that's a lot.

I stopped buying shitty CDs, and I stopped stealing music. So I haven't heard it. I'm only relaying the opinion.

citizen06 · #8 07-29-2003, 05:38 AM

I would say anything pre black album is worth listening to. But if you like old metallica I would recomend: And justice for all or master of puppets. :twisted:

pogoism9 · #9 08-15-2003, 06:55 PM

Quote:

She makes fun of Lars' inability to play anything worth a damn. She said it's just awful. Coming from her, that's a lot

Ya know, Its comments like this that make me fall out of my chair laughing.

1) Even the folks that dislike St. Anger are talking about the new found quickness of Mr. Ulrich. Yes, his snare sound is awful, but alot of the album has blazing fast double bass.

2) Same reason why your girlfriend works in a CD shop and they are out making millions.

3) If she thinks its so terrible, buy her a $5,000 Starclassic kit complete with cymbals and shit and tell her to do it better.....

In closing, I only have 3 words.....

SEE THEM LIVE

Nova_Blaze · #10 08-16-2003, 02:35 AM

Well i am just adding my 2cps.

I listened to St.Anger and to me there old stuff was alot better. Metallica is a great band but anger was not there best.

bloodkingg · #11 08-17-2003, 08:12 AM

Shrug, I like every single Metallica and Led Zeppelin song...I like St. Angers solos though, I like all their songs

Roecer · #12 08-18-2003, 03:24 PM

All I can say is... you American ''headbangers'' need to listen to some real music. Listen to some east-Atlantic bands such as Children of Bodom, Amon Amarth, or even In Flames.

AMERICAN BANDS SUCK!

By the way, Metallica literally burned out.

www.metalhq.com

Trumpcard · #13 08-18-2003, 09:36 PM

European bands are a joke, even the GOOD ones... They're about 10 years behind the american music curve... Europe is where bands that can't make money in the US anymore stay.. I think Dokken is still touring over in Sweden right now...lol...

There are some great musicians (Sonata Artica), but they still couldnt write a decent song with Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles, and Steven Tyler collaborating with them... LOL

DeletedUser · #14 08-18-2003, 10:06 PM

afi > all

Sabyre · #15 08-19-2003, 06:03 AM

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Its been all down hill since the black album.

I agree!

What a sellout means to me is a bands decision to move from the essence that made them to a format that will entice more of the populus.

Money Talks

Metallica is big business! There is more money to be made marketing to the pop culture rather than the metal heads. Changing and growing as a musician is wonderful. Changing your whole persona for more money is a bad thing.

Take a band like Def Leppard for instance they have stayed with their format and they still continue to kick ass.

Artist or businessmen?

When you hear metallica on radio stations that play Brittney Spears there is something totally BS about that.

If you call yourself a Metallica fan and you only like post Black album think again. You are not a true Metallica fan. Metallica is raw, in-your-face, kick-your-ass, emotion, and power. Not 4 farts in the wind with dollar signs in their eyes.

Someone turn the lights on!