EverQuest Legends... What do you think?

[Boomba the Pig]

I see that one of the people I referred to has shown himself. I have nothing against you personally, but paying $30 more for something that should be in the normal game anyway ( you can argue that the extra gms alone warrant the higher expenses ) is in my opinion quite silly. If you want to be a no-life loser like I mentioned Trmpcard, by all means sign up. I can't imagine them changing the world enough to warrant the extra bucks. But if you are one of those to whom "Phat Loot" and "Uber Guilds" constitute the bulk of their gaming enjoyment, more power to you. It's your money and time.

[Trumpcard]

I see that you completely missed the whole point of my post....

[cbreaker]

Aye, he did.

[Boomba the Pig]

No I didn't.

[cbreaker]

Dude, calling someone a "no life loser" isn't very nice.

Nor is it true.

FIRST OF ALL. He did not say HE was one of the people that would be purchasing Legends. Whethere he is or not, he's saying he can understand why people would readily pay $40 to play this game month to month.

Like myself, I'm SURE you have all spent a bunch of money on something silly. Go to the casino, and blow a few hundred. Buy that little cool thing for your computer you don't need.

And to the people spending money on EQ, it's not silly. Some people are really into it. And if this extra $30 a month makes their games all the better, so be it. If you have the money to burn, spend it.

I'm not jusifying the price hike anymore than Trumpcard. However, I do understand why people will and why it's not so ridiculous to think so.

And you don't have to be a "no life loser" to pay $40/mo on a game, as most of us have spent much, much more on something that would give us much less enjoyment.

-CB

[Trumpcard]

Ok.. Let me try this again.. Nothing personal here, just an example, dont take offense, Im just trying to use this to prove my point...

Here's an snippet from your profile Boomba

Birthday September 7, 1966
Biography I drink like mad and sleep all day
Location New York
Interests sex, booze, good food, books, hiking
Occupation currently unemployed.


Now, at first glance, it would be easy for me too say,
Hmmmm...

He's a 35 year old perverted drunk, who can't get a job, and drinks all night and sleeps all day... He must be a NO LIFE LOSER..

Now,
Because I dont know your personal circumstances, or anything at all about you other than your desire to call peope who would pay for a premium service "NO LIFE LOSER's", I would never make such an accusation..

You are probably a very cool guy, I'm just trying to point out that making such sweeping generaliztions about people you know nothing about will often brand you as being uninformed and judgemental...

Like I said, nothing personal, I just think you are being unduly harsh. If I spent 300 hours a month playing EQ like alot of the hardcore EQaholics, I would probably be able to rationalize the extra 30 bucks a month. Should their normal service include extra extra gm support? I dont think so, its 8 bucks a friggin month, you already get a pretty rich experience out of it for the relatively low subscription cost... Im not looking at their budget, so Im not going to decide whether they could put more GM's on staff to support these types of things. But consider, for 1 GM per server to run a GM event at the same time, that requires 20 GM's. Verant is not a huge company, I dont think they would have the resources for all the production threads. 1 server means they can hire a couple of EVENT only people, that can manage just the one server.

Once again, just my opinion.

[Boomba the Pig]

I see where you are coming from. I also didn't credit your intelligence enough. And I am thankfully now employed ( Did the horror that occured on Sept. 11 have anything to do with it? That would be too easy to use as an excuse. But as I do live in NYC and my job went under as a result of the terrorists actions, it was my reason for being unemployed.) Your profile listing as Geek could lead me to speculate on many things. I will not as this discussion has become pointless and boring and would become even more childish. You have your opinion, I have mine. I don't find the Legends server as a Value Added Service. It will be nothing more than the same old level treadmill EQ with a few bones thrown in. I could see how it would be more valuable if the world was changed or was otherwise less static. I would see it being more valuable if player actions had true consequences (factions are an easily solved problem). If players could change the world ( kill King Crush and his cronies and you could pave the way for a permanent Elven take over ), make significant items ( top end player items are better than items found off of mid-level mobs. I find cultural armors a joke on the players.) or play the game without EQs "working as intended" bugs. (anyone ever been hit through a wall or floor?). This server will be IN MY OPINION (remember that phrase Trumpcard) nothing more than a gathering spot for EQs uber elite and their uber guildness. Those are the reasons for my calling anyone who signs up a no life loser. You're not getting anything more than the right to brag to your uber loot buddies that you have something that they don't. A shame if you ask me (and you didn't). By the way cbreaker look at his first post in response to my topic. You'll see this :
"Its easy to sit around and pass judgement on others isnt it, but be a little more fair, and think about how much fun we would have on these boards scrutinizing YOUR life.
That statement wraps up the stupid, judgemental nature of exactly the kind of low life loser's he was refering too if you ask me. "
That's why I even bothered responding. Take care all. I will not bother reading or responding to this thread anymore. We are both intelligent people. This discussion over EQ is over.

[cbreaker]

I'm sorry I even bothered trying to clear anything up for you, Boomba, as you are truely a hateful person.

And you continue to miss the point, over and over.

AND! Even though you mention how using the WTC attacks as an excuse as to why you were unemployed would be "too easy" (though you being unemployed had NOTHING to do with what he said) you used it anyways!

There are 9 million people in NYC, myself included. We all know how that day and how the market (which was falling before that) has affected our job situations. So don't even say it! There's people in Nowhere, Alaska that probably lost their jobs because of it too.

Whatever. I hope this discussinon is over for YOU.

Myself, on the otherhand, was enjoying this thread.

[Flagge]

EQ Legends is, quite simply, another attempt at bringing in profit by 'V. They understand how addictive EQ is, and it's sad when you happen to get caught in those situations where the servers go down for emergency patches because their latest patch seemed to follow the same trend as microsoft, ect, and you find the chat rooms awash with children repeatedly spamming -

"Plz! wuts wrong wit EQ says server is down u dont inderstand i ned to pwray EQ NOW NOW NOW"

'V is a predator company. They saw a chance to make a buck, so they went for it. However, it is kind of sad that they are going to basically make an entirely NEW game, that offers all the dandy customer support and GM events we SHOULD currently be getting for a regular subscription. I don't even remember the last time I saw a GM event.

[Trumpcard]

Oh course it's an attempt to bring in more money! My god, how many businesses survive when they can't make money??
If they didnt make money, then all we would have to play is the emulator because Verant would fold.

I can't see how creating a premium service can be considered being a Predator company. A predator company would wait till everyone was hooked, then start jerking the prices up. Or, removing services they use to provide, and charging out the nose for them. They are making a value added service, for people that want that level of interaction in the game. I dont recall them ever promising huge daily GM events. I think what happened is they probably planned that originally, and realized they couldnt pull it off as the player population exploded.. Im looking over the promotional matieral on their website

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Welcome to the world of EverQuest

[cbreaker]

Hey, you never know. Maybe this Legends server will be a model for all servers.

If they find that it is so much better and so much more fun etc etc etc they might just expand the program to include all servers.

When you think about it, it could be what they have in mind. Okay so there's going to be about 2000 people selected by legends. That's $80,000 a month.

You might think that's a lot, but it's SMALL BEANS compared to the $4,000,000 a month being brought in by the rest of the 'normal' subscribers.

So, that makes me think that this may be a 'Test' or 'Pilot' type thing. It can't be about the money, so the $40 may have been set to help reduce the amount of people applying to play.

Maybe it will simply lead to more Legends servers, or maybe it will lead to more dynamic content on all servers.

-CB

ps. Verrant is not a non-profit organization. They have and will continue to make money. Anyone who thinks that EQ is 'by the people for the people' needs a head check.

This does however NOT excuse them from shoddy customer support (Not guides, they are pretty good, the GM's suck ass) and overall unatisfactory customer relations.

[Trumpcard]

I think they are letting 8000 people subscribe to it, they're estimating a day to day server population (on at one time) around 2000 though. Its basiclly got the revenue equivalent of 4 other servers.

[cbreaker]

Be that as it may, it's still not all that much revenue, considering that there's something like 35 or 40 servers online at the moment..

[Razzle]

Perhaps you all need to consider the following:

'No life losers' couldn't afford Everquest Legends. They can only afford the $9.95 a month out of the welfare checks.

"Wasting money" isn't what's going on here. It is a medium for entertainment, much like cable or satellite TV.

Those of you who don't pay for your own cable, look at the bill sometime. Those of you who go to the movies often, add up all of those snacks and tickets. Those of you who go to arcades, keep record of how much you spend there. Just keep a record on how much you spend on entertainment a month, be it video games, internet connection, or condoms.

People who truly 'enjoy' EQ and want whatever the Legend server offers can have it. They have to spend a long time online in order to enjoy it, so they are still saving more money than people who seek entertainment from another source.

To each his own.

[Shawn319]

I dont like the idea at all. I think thay should give this to the people paying 9.95..


oh well u can join EQEmu Legonds for 0.00$/mo